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jody

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47. One can not ignore divisive, polarizing political issues and hope to win elections. That’s

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:22 PM

Dec 2012

why the Second Amendment, abortion, religion, LGBT et al are in our Democratic Party Platform.

To even suggest banning discussion of one of those issues implies one is not very serious about electing our candidates and controlling Congress, the Executive Branch, and appointing justices to the Supreme Court.

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Motion to the Members of DU [View all] Savannahmann Dec 2012 OP

"no gun topics in the General Discussion"??? ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #1

The rule has been suspended to promote discussion about the Newton School tragedy. Lasher Dec 2012 #3

Yes it has been thrown out. It's not in effect, so it's thrown out. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #6

It is an admin rule, not a rule that is subject to member consensus. We can debate it all we want stevenleser Dec 2012 #13

Thanks Steven. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #29

You're Welcome. It will last for a week or so. stevenleser Dec 2012 #36

Can't come soon enough for me. closeupready Dec 2012 #65

The SOP for GD says no posts about guns unless there is really big news.... Little Star Dec 2012 #8

The problem is, it *is* a part of the Party platform... Earth_First Dec 2012 #2

I think it should be left. HappyMe Dec 2012 #4

No debate, no consensus pipoman Dec 2012 #5

Gun discussions belong in the Gun Forum. That is the rule. eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #9

But the OP said to get rid of the Guns Forum. axetogrind Dec 2012 #14

Debate can happen in the Gun Forum (while it exists). But I've been schooled ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #22

I agree. axetogrind Dec 2012 #27

Do we have to take the Grover Norquist "purity" pledge too? OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2012 #7

This. +1. n/t intheflow Dec 2012 #33

I am not sure how I will vote and let me say why. stevenleser Dec 2012 #10

Woo woo? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #28

The Creative Speculation Forum. 'Woo woo' is a slang term for crazy talk stevenleser Dec 2012 #34

Oh, right. I knew its earlier incarnation Recursion Dec 2012 #45

Conspiracy theory ("creative speculation"!) KamaAina Dec 2012 #38

motion? datasuspect Dec 2012 #11

Oh I understand. Savannahmann Dec 2012 #42

Kick n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #12

Removing the forum solves nothing. n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #15

True. Gregorian Dec 2012 #50

Nice avvie KamaAina Dec 2012 #16

+1 Earth_First Dec 2012 #30

I love the show Family Guy Savannahmann Dec 2012 #95

I do, too KamaAina Dec 2012 #96

So if I change my avatar, then can we discuss the issue? Savannahmann Dec 2012 #98

Fair enough. The Gungeon is far from "an NRA cheering room". KamaAina Dec 2012 #99

Overreaction GermanSmoker Dec 2012 #17

I don't read the gungeon, but it is a useful quarantine measure for a topic that could be... JVS Dec 2012 #18

Let's keep the gun forum Jack Rabbit Dec 2012 #19

Voted to kill it. Cesspool that attracts RWNJs. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #20

If you cannot win the debate....simply ban the topic.... virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #21

hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #92

Somehow you've managed to bring out all the gun-loving freaks. lol nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #23

:manical laugh: Earth_First Dec 2012 #26

I thought the same thing. DocMac Dec 2012 #84

We're gun loving freaks axetogrind Dec 2012 #32

And you're a POF member since yesterday? nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #49

So what? axetogrind Dec 2012 #53

I'm not a gun-loving freak. intheflow Dec 2012 #40

Have you ever spent any time in the gungeon? 90% of it's posts are extreme NRA... Walk away Dec 2012 #55

Hell no! intheflow Dec 2012 #57

But what if you have a sincere interest in gun control? What about those of us who... Walk away Dec 2012 #64

I am saying nothing of the sort. intheflow Dec 2012 #71

Believe me, I have other outlets for my interests. It just seems a little sad that a forum... Walk away Dec 2012 #91

I just reread your post and want to add... intheflow Dec 2012 #89

Refusal to discuss something does NOT remove it as a problem. davsand Dec 2012 #24

Even if its hard we need open communication marlakay Dec 2012 #25

+ 1 n/t Still Sensible Dec 2012 #31

I think there needs to be a place for guns to be discussed Marrah_G Dec 2012 #35

Confusing censorship contentions. earthside Dec 2012 #37

Gun fetishism is America's Really Big Disease. FredStembottom Dec 2012 #39

Well put! n/t intheflow Dec 2012 #41

i agree we need more gun control... actslikeacarrot Dec 2012 #43

Keep the gun forum - Remove RKBA SecularMotion Dec 2012 #44

Do you mean... NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #51

Really? Savannahmann Dec 2012 #56

What is a "pro-gun opinion"? SecularMotion Dec 2012 #60

An opinion that favors relaxing gun restrictions, or opposes new ones. n/t NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #63

Democrats support gun control SecularMotion Dec 2012 #66

This isn't the place to discuss that. NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #67

Democratic Party platform on guns SecularMotion Dec 2012 #68

Definitely not. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #46

One can not ignore divisive, polarizing political issues and hope to win elections. That’s jody Dec 2012 #47

Fair enough, but I ask this question Savannahmann Dec 2012 #54

Holding political power under our form of democracy does not mean a simple majority can impose its jody Dec 2012 #58

Nuts Savannahmann Dec 2012 #97

ah, you don't like the idea. CreekDog Dec 2012 #88

I would have voted to keep it but only as the "Pro-Gun forum" Walk away Dec 2012 #48

Voted... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #52

What will this accomplish? peace13 Dec 2012 #59

I vote no. Springslips Dec 2012 #61

The gungeoneers have a thread asking gungeoneers to Freep this poll RomneyLies Dec 2012 #62

Are you trying to imply that people shouldn't be allowed to speak on an issue PavePusher Dec 2012 #69

No, I'm laughing at people so desperate as to want to freep an internet poll on the same site RomneyLies Dec 2012 #72

"freep" a poll? So glad you came for a rational discussion. PavePusher Dec 2012 #74

Just using the terminology of the average gungeoneer. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #78

RMNJ? Help me out, I didn't get the code book..... n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #93

Call me surprised. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #75

Yeah, I need a shower RomneyLies Dec 2012 #79

Glad to see that common sense is prevailing on this one... n/t Earth_First Dec 2012 #70

I voted yes nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #73

I agree abelenkpe Dec 2012 #77

Being technically correct matters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #85

It's an important political topic, going to be more important going forward HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #76

This is a topic that MUST be discussed Rider3 Dec 2012 #80

I did NOT vote either way because I would like to see a second ANTI-GUN forum group in same place graham4anything Dec 2012 #81

Keep the group get rid of the gun nuts so we can have the... Little Star Dec 2012 #82

Can we have a motion to stop bugging everybody with ridiculous motions? renie408 Dec 2012 #83

my vote is related to it being a haven (or is it "hive") for right wingers on DU CreekDog Dec 2012 #86

I abhor guns and would never own one sdfernando Dec 2012 #87

Threadstarter, you have 282 posts under your belt. closeupready Dec 2012 #90

It's the main reason I stopped reading DU for a couple of years.... llmart Dec 2012 #94