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Highly improbable ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #1
the gun culture would take time to change but quinnox Dec 2012 #4
You minimize the legal hurdles which are massive ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #10
There would be the added benefit of thousands of angry freepers dying while resisting confiscation librechik Dec 2012 #2
if a few Waco style confrontations/occurances happened, then so be it quinnox Dec 2012 #5
Waco was an incredible tragedy that should not be repeated kdmorris Dec 2012 #15
Waco ending was chosen by David Korash, the starting of fires was at his orders. Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #103
I know that kdmorris Dec 2012 #112
25 children were murdered at Waco. Cool plan. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #17
I'm not endorsing Waco, just being prepared for the reality that some of quinnox Dec 2012 #20
Regrettable? Does that mean acceptable instead of absolutely horrifying? Killing more children? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #26
no, it would be a terrible event but the blame would of course be placed squarely quinnox Dec 2012 #32
You've dug yerself a hole. Saboburns Dec 2012 #63
I think my answers have clarified what I meant and have been reasonable quinnox Dec 2012 #67
not endorsing Waco Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #49
a "gun enthusiast" speaks.... mike_c Dec 2012 #76
Law enforcement gave Koresh 51 days to surrender. Instead, he continued hugging his guns and raping Hoyt Dec 2012 #31
What about the 25 dead kids? No sympathy for them either.... Disgusting. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #33
All you care about is your guns. Be honest. Hoyt Dec 2012 #34
No. rDigital Dec 2012 #35
Refusing to be honest? No surprise. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #39
Pot meet kettle. See above. toodles. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #61
He should never have been able to stockpile those guns in the first place. CTyankee Dec 2012 #45
Good luck. Get to it. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #53
will do. and thanks. CTyankee Dec 2012 #85
Then what Amendment or laws get repealed next? atreides1 Dec 2012 #74
Oh, haven't you heard? There are already some people who want to repeal the Voting CTyankee Dec 2012 #86
Waco was not about guns. musical_soul Dec 2012 #68
OK, so why did Janet Reno go after them? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #70
She wanted to solve the problem....... musical_soul Dec 2012 #80
You think they sent the ATF in for an unstable man? DesMoinesDem Dec 2012 #83
what the fuck????? cali Dec 2012 #29
It wouldn't be "a few." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #62
Funny joke... haha kdmorris Dec 2012 #23
Perhaps my reading comprehension skills are lacking geek_sabre Dec 2012 #3
with the full force of law and police agencies cracking down quinnox Dec 2012 #6
I love how gun people assume all the gun owners will just turn vicious felons alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #18
I agree quinnox Dec 2012 #25
If you pass the law, most people will comply with it. Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #51
Yes, I'm willing to experiment with it alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #65
The vast majority don't take illegal drugs. jeff47 Dec 2012 #88
I think the fog of anger over this tragedy has clouded a lot of otherwise excellent minds. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #71
Actually, you're not being respectful alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #81
Because guns don't use ammunition jeff47 Dec 2012 #89
At least ammunition AlexSatan Dec 2012 #96
If the vast majority used illegal drugs, you'd have a point jeff47 Dec 2012 #100
The problem is that AlexSatan Dec 2012 #101
Where do those illegally gotten guns come from? jeff47 Dec 2012 #106
Can you support that claim? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #107
Because Washington DC is a state jeff47 Dec 2012 #108
I appreciate the data AlexSatan Dec 2012 #114
" Because those laws allow us to stop drunk drivers before they kill someone." Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #110
Because my post said laws were 100% effective in all cases. jeff47 Dec 2012 #111
Because politicians and elected sheriffs and judges in red states hack89 Dec 2012 #43
They weren't going to enforce integration either alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #66
It will never get to that point fortunately hack89 Dec 2012 #75
Great idea! AlexSatan Dec 2012 #95
That worked great with cocaine and marijuana, too (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #99
Ammunition sales. jeff47 Dec 2012 #87
How do you get around the courts? white_wolf Dec 2012 #7
my OP is predicated on the idea of the constituiton question already being decided quinnox Dec 2012 #9
When one starts in fictional territory indeed all things are possible ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
I'm not a Doctor Jim, I'm a pool man! nt rDigital Dec 2012 #19
I'm merely speculating and saying it could happen quinnox Dec 2012 #22
The SC has already ruled that the 2A is an individual right NickB79 Dec 2012 #109
Then I guess we'd better start nominating SC justices that are on our side. Change the CTyankee Dec 2012 #48
Now that I can get behind. white_wolf Dec 2012 #56
Remind the courts that "well regulated militia" appears in the 2nd amendment jeff47 Dec 2012 #90
If we quit the war on drugs and Afpak, we could do this Taverner Dec 2012 #8
That would probably work as well as the war on drugs. shraby Dec 2012 #11
One small difference being guns are an enumerated Constitutional right. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #77
Only issuing licenses to security personnel or subsistance hunters? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #13
no, it couldn't be done as you lay out. It's just a fantasy. cali Dec 2012 #14
Correct, but this is a women's suffrage type Constitutional project alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #16
If it takes more than one election cycle it won't work. rrneck Dec 2012 #21
Precisely. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #28
NRA propaganda. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #41
Yes, let's not let this propaganda go unchallenged. Onward! CTyankee Dec 2012 #50
Stricter gun control and confiscation are two different things. rrneck Dec 2012 #58
Ah stricter gun control means confiscation of most guns. Glad you have clarified that. dkf Dec 2012 #60
I have firearms that nobody knows about. Throd Dec 2012 #24
You can build your own ARs with unregistered receivers and there is no Federal requirement to ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #27
And you guys tell us gun lovers are "law-abiding and responsible." Apparently, you don't even Hoyt Dec 2012 #36
Nothing I said was illegal in the least nor irresponsible ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #42
That the problem with a lot of gun folks -- Things can be legal, but immoral. Hoyt Dec 2012 #52
Nothing there is immoral either ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #64
No. I think most people realize guns contributed greatly to this tragedy. Hoyt Dec 2012 #73
The clear implication of your words quakerboy Dec 2012 #97
I and others have pointed out the fallacy of collection squads ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #98
You're just one of tens of millions. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #30
Guns no one knows about is not even the beginnnig of the problem. Lurker Deluxe Dec 2012 #40
Good barrels require specialized tooling to do the rifling ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #44
Then you're part of the problem. baldguy Dec 2012 #46
How? Throd Dec 2012 #84
So you are saying "self defense in my home" would not be a valid reason? Or target shooting? Logical Dec 2012 #37
I have not considered all details quinnox Dec 2012 #38
I think your collection of the current 300 million guns might be harder than you think..... Logical Dec 2012 #47
It would be a tax break for any returned weapons, not cold hard cash quinnox Dec 2012 #55
No way they could take guns and not compensate the owner for fair market value. Logical Dec 2012 #72
Its even worse than that. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #91
People are not being realistic at this point. How has removing all illegal drugs worked? Logical Dec 2012 #92
Do you really want cops to be the only ones with guns? musical_soul Dec 2012 #54
me either-- take them away from cops, too.... mike_c Dec 2012 #78
So.... musical_soul Dec 2012 #82
with a trudgeon or other non-lethal means.... mike_c Dec 2012 #93
We have a couple rifles which we need when predators are going after our hens. peacebird Dec 2012 #57
that situation would fall under an acceptable gun license quinnox Dec 2012 #59
Because we don't have enough people in prison bluestateguy Dec 2012 #69
Banning drugs has worked out really well Recursion Dec 2012 #79
+1 Carnage251 Dec 2012 #102
I strongly dislike guns, but even more so, the idea that the populace would be unarmed and not the Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #94
All I tend to hear is we want to turn the screws to a level that won't be tolerated TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #105
It can't be done Carnage251 Dec 2012 #104
until the 2nd amendment goes away it cant be done rdking647 Dec 2012 #113
More pragmatic idea: let people keep them Nevernose Dec 2012 #115
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