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kydo

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56. umm, yes he did

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:36 AM

Dec 2012

He re-said his rant at least once so far during Morning Joe. On his initial rant toward the end he lists the reasons and it started with Hollywood. Even in is second reading of his rant he puts hollywood first, I just watched it.

As soon as the right nutters get their talking points in order this will be the issue pushed by them and that is sad. It's sad because yes this plays a role, but access to military assault rifles and poor access to proper mental health care are much more major factors in this mess then hollywood. Joe and his right wing nra loving counterparts need to grasp that fact.

Yeah its great Joe made big steps over the weekend. So cool Joe you get a cookie for seeing what 53% of the US already knew. There I gave your precious Joe credit, a cookie, chocolate chip even. So now can we get back to the real issue, gun control and mental health services?

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Hollywood?? WTF? [View all] kydo Dec 2012 OP

Never forget that the NRA gave him top billing n/t malaise Dec 2012 #1

He acknowledged that he got NRAs highest rating rateyes Dec 2012 #3

Whatever malaise Dec 2012 #68

oh I know kydo Dec 2012 #5

If you dont think the video games contribute to this carnage rateyes Dec 2012 #2

No I think violent games (all games from kill kill games to football) kydo Dec 2012 #6

And, he said as much. rateyes Dec 2012 #7

But its buried kydo Dec 2012 #13

I beg to differ, rateyes Dec 2012 #14

then maybe you should go back and re-watch kydo Dec 2012 #26

Took your advice, and watched again.. rateyes Dec 2012 #49

umm, yes he did kydo Dec 2012 #56

No, I think you misunderstand BainsBane Dec 2012 #19

which is exactly why I am upset kydo Dec 2012 #28

I see no reason to assume that BainsBane Dec 2012 #31

I hope you are right kydo Dec 2012 #41

Whether WE like it or not, Joe is right. EVERYTHING has to change. renie408 Dec 2012 #9

Joe was half right kydo Dec 2012 #63

I agree with you PatSeg Dec 2012 #74

Bullshit...video games didn't kill those kids. ZM90 Dec 2012 #4

And the gun nuts will tell you that guns don't kill people, either. renie408 Dec 2012 #8

thank you. rateyes Dec 2012 #11

Video Games are not the problem though... ZM90 Dec 2012 #12

Well, my friend, you need to find a new hobby. Just like the guy who shoots an AR-15 renie408 Dec 2012 #16

Good luck banning video games.... ZM90 Dec 2012 #22

Ya think?? renie408 Dec 2012 #33

Let me ask you a question. Can you mass murder real people with a video game controller or console? ZM90 Dec 2012 #40

thats usually how it goes... rateyes Dec 2012 #51

What we need to do is make it much harder for mentally disturbed people to obtain guns ZM90 Dec 2012 #55

This is my last reply to you, since you are unable to keep rateyes Dec 2012 #57

Friend, they have studies which prove increased violence after renie408 Dec 2012 #77

This exemplifies how dense some DU'er can be. It's not about laws banning violent media KittyWampus Dec 2012 #79

bingo rateyes Dec 2012 #27

CENSORSHIP IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLE, you sir can fuck right off. Kurska Dec 2012 #34

Nobody is talking about censorship. People still have the freedom to put that shitty stuff on the rateyes Dec 2012 #54

False. theKed Dec 2012 #59

true rateyes Dec 2012 #62

Still false. theKed Dec 2012 #64

did u read the article? rateyes Dec 2012 #65

Did you read mine? theKed Dec 2012 #66

yes, i did. however, i asked you first... rateyes Dec 2012 #78

did you read theked's articles? nt kydo Dec 2012 #67

Actually we had more access to mental health care nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #70

yeppers kydo Dec 2012 #72

they are part of the problem rateyes Dec 2012 #17

oh the days before violent video games when there were NO incidents of people killing other people leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #43

they are part of the problem rateyes Dec 2012 #48

oh now i get it. thanks for repeating the same talking point and ignoring the point of the post leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #81

You're welcome. rateyes Dec 2012 #86

Except that guns theKed Dec 2012 #44

Teacher here.... rateyes Dec 2012 #10

We have a rating system and whether or not those kids are playing a violent video game is up to the ZM90 Dec 2012 #15

Well, the ratings arent working. rateyes Dec 2012 #18

Good luck banning video games.... ZM90 Dec 2012 #21

We're not going to ban video games, but we can tax them to near extinction. reformist2 Dec 2012 #30

I'm pretty sure the backlash by both gamers and video game companies would cause that legislation to ZM90 Dec 2012 #32

Various people theKed Dec 2012 #45

You realize the person doing this was an adult right? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #71

"There are no images there, except the ones in my mind. Granted, some are disturbing," zappaman Dec 2012 #80

I agree with you. It just makes intuitive sense that immersion into violence cali Dec 2012 #20

thanks, cali rateyes Dec 2012 #25

This is where I draw the line... if we're going to start a witch hunt against more than guns Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #36

Agreed theKed Dec 2012 #50

Also, there have been numerous studies which show that the brain cannot renie408 Dec 2012 #37

Exactly and thanks cali kydo Dec 2012 #38

Agree completely. Safetykitten Dec 2012 #52

I don't subscribe to your ranking of the main causes. Violent entertainment is a huge problem. reformist2 Dec 2012 #23

Isn't gun culture like game culture? Bad Thoughts Dec 2012 #24

I agree Renew Deal Dec 2012 #29

I will defend free speech and expression with every ounce of my being... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #35

Video games aren't speech. reformist2 Dec 2012 #39

I beg to differ... ZM90 Dec 2012 #42

Actually the few times this has come before courts nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #73

Well, Comrade, video games are part of interstate commerce, and the rateyes Dec 2012 #58

If there weren't a body of legal precedent theKed Dec 2012 #60

thanks theKed kydo Dec 2012 #61

I'm a pretty simple person with relatively basic thoughts, but.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #46

It's not Hollywood ... kwolf68 Dec 2012 #47

Guns don't kill people, movies and games do. Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #53

I will give him a point and will tell you why nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #69

So now rush is blaming yep you guessed it .... kydo Dec 2012 #75

I will not change my consumer behaviour one bit GermanSmoker Dec 2012 #76

That makes you part of the problem Glitterati Dec 2012 #85

Good grief! 99Forever Dec 2012 #82

Hollywoods and vGames PoliticalBiker Dec 2012 #83

Seriously. Rambo movies come to mind? Glitterati Dec 2012 #84