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PeaceWave

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Thu Feb 27, 2025, 03:52 PM Feb 27

After careful consideration, I have decided that the 24 Hour Economic Blackout is bullshit. [View all]

I wanted to like the idea. Hell, I myself proposed something similar not long after the election. That said, this thing was extremely poorly thought out. And, I have two primary reasons for saying this...

(1) To begin with, several stores that sell essentials (i.e., food) offer deep discounts only on Fridays. For instance, Albertsons/Safeway, with its 2,300 stores, has all of its best grocery deals only on Fridays. And, trust me, when I say these are good deals. I consider myself an extremely shrewd shopper and I estimate that I routinely save 30-40% on my bill whenever I shop at Safeway on a Friday as opposed to any other day of the week. And, I'm not alone in targeting the day of the week when I shop for groceries. Every worker at Safeway with whom I've spoken has told me that the store gets twice as many customers on Friday. So, this Economic Blackout is not only asking me to miss out on these deals, but to likely also return to the same store the following day and pay 30-40% more for the same items - Which would have the counter-intuitive effect of only enriching the store that much more. You really want to ask people who are already living on tight margins to go this route? Seriously, someone didn't think this thing out all the way through.

(2) Sale prices aside, saying you're going to protest food prices by not buying food for one arbitrary day actually makes absolutely no economic sense - Since you're simply going to make up for what you didn't buy that one day by purchasing more some other day. The economic impact on the grocery chain is zero. Now, if you really want to hurt their bottom line, get your fucking hands dirty. By that, I mean GROW SOMETHING. I say this as a gardener. Planting season is nearly upon us. Every spring, my own family plants tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, snap peas (my personal favorite), melons, etc. This is addition to the stone fruit trees we harvest every summer. It doesn't take a big piece of property to produce your own produce. And, even if you have no property at all, there are community gardens and gardening collectives you can join, contribute to and benefit from. The environment will love you. Your body will thank you.

So, in summation, pick another day of the week and I can get on board with a 24 Economic Blackout. But, even then, symbolic gestures are no match for real action and real physical effort. It's a sign of the times that too many people now confuse inaction (mostly conducted behind a computer screen and splattered across social media) for real world effect. The most effective "protestors" I know are gardeners. They wield power not with guns, but with shovels and spades. Something to chew on this Thursday.

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People get activated into movements by a wide variety of on-ramps. A day of economic inaction is not the WhiskeyGrinder Feb 27 #1
this. Sure, this is just flexing our muscles a bit, not hitting hard. unblock Feb 27 #7
Plus, it's another way to show the number of the opposition cally Feb 27 #38
I can just see the first person/persons talking about protesting the VN war Bengus81 Feb 28 #173
Exactly! mcar Feb 27 #103
Funny how that has to be explained to people that are Dems and on DU Bengus81 Feb 28 #169
Tend to agree Pull_Left Feb 27 #2
not the point Shellback Squid Feb 27 #20
What is the point? Mariana Feb 27 #24
google is your friend Shellback Squid Feb 27 #32
Seems like the point is to buy stuff on Thursday or Saturday instead of Friday. Mariana Feb 27 #37
Post #1 will answer your question. Emile Feb 28 #180
Yep, make a big deal about not buying on Friday, just wait until Saturday. elocs Feb 27 #63
Bud Lite. Voltaire2 Feb 27 #72
I'm not impressed. NNadir Feb 27 #3
It's fine to buy food, medicine, and other essentials tomorrow. yardwork Feb 27 #4
The same amount of money in total will be spent before and after, but Ocelot II Feb 27 #5
Most of the consumers aren't deciding not to consume. Mariana Feb 27 #31
Of course. But the point of the exercise is to demonstrate what *could* happen Ocelot II Feb 27 #35
Why not actually cut back on consumption in the first place? Mariana Feb 27 #45
This is a weird flex. intheflow Feb 27 #114
The point is that many people aren't consuming less even for one day. Mariana Feb 27 #127
For one thing, it trains people for longer and sustained actions in the future. intheflow Feb 27 #142
People will be doing that anyway, Crunchy Frog Feb 27 #154
Exactly StarryNite Feb 27 #118
Exactly StarryNite Feb 27 #119
I likewise think this "24 hours of no buying" is PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 27 #6
Especially if the plan is to stock up the days before and after. Frasier Balzov Feb 27 #12
Yep. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 27 #54
Who "stocks up"? Hell food is so fucking expensive at the store we just buy ONLY Bengus81 Feb 28 #170
People who shop at Costco Jose Garcia Feb 28 #184
Well intentioned but not well thought through. elocs Feb 27 #64
Blocking. Thanks for nothing Captain Zero Feb 27 #146
Later. Captain Zero Feb 27 #147
You think this is going to be the only one? Bengus81 Feb 28 #166
I agree Progressive dog Feb 27 #8
no, it's every business, it is a statement Shellback Squid Feb 27 #18
You can do that if youwish Progressive dog Feb 27 #23
whatever Shellback Squid Feb 27 #26
Boycotts only tend to work if they are focused and local. elocs Feb 27 #66
Was that boycott on Bud light by those MAGA idiots only local? Bengus81 Feb 28 #164
On Bud Light? Sounds focused to me and that's why it worked. elocs Feb 28 #185
It's something I CAN do! Dorothy V Feb 27 #9
Me too since I'm poor and not buying anything on Friday anyways. elocs Feb 27 #69
This is a trivially easy act of resistance. WTAF Voltaire2 Feb 27 #10
So is shouting at clouds. That, too is trivially easy and totally ineffective at accomplishing anything. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #75
Gosh, I guess so angrychair Feb 27 #94
A one-day boycott is equivalent to a spoiled child "holding their breath until they turn blue" as a form of coercion. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #98
I could just as easily angrychair Feb 27 #109
Well, you could say that. But it would indicate a lack of understanding and patience * Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #117
We don't have years to build up angrychair Feb 27 #122
Nobody will care. Nobody will notice. It's a waste of time and effort. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #123
Bye-bye. (nt) Paladin Feb 28 #187
Whew! Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #200
Fine. ariadne0614 Feb 27 #112
I never suggested that people aren't fee to "boycott as they please" * Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #120
As you said/I said, "to each his own." ariadne0614 Feb 27 #121
Mirrors don't care about virtue signaling. It takes more than that to effect real change. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #131
Mmmhm. . . ariadne0614 Feb 27 #143
The least amount of effort * Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #149
Sometimes less is more. ariadne0614 Feb 27 #153
LOL. 🤡🥸 Only in fashion... Not politics. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #155
How is it "a waste of time"? thucythucy Feb 27 #160
Why would anyone spend such an inordinate amount of time "organizing" such an ineffective boycott? Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #163
Isn't it also a waste of time to try to argue folks thucythucy Feb 28 #192
No... what good purpose is served by luring people into doing absolutely nothing * Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #195
Have to run to a meeting thucythucy Feb 28 #199
I think we're done here anyway. We're talking past each other... Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #203
Again...this will NOT be the only economic blackout. It will be longer and grow. Bengus81 Feb 28 #168
No it won't. A more likely outcome will be * Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #177
LOL...You don't know who's doing the organizing? It's only been planned now for 2-3 weeks Bengus81 Feb 28 #178
There ya go! Nobody knows, nobody cares. Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #181
LOL...you still admit you don't know who organized this blackout. Funny!! Bengus81 Feb 28 #182
Well, I counted at least 4 alternatives listed in their post. yagotme Feb 28 #183
There are targeted boycotts angrychair Feb 28 #193
Those won't work either. It will take longer than a week. Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #197
I get the point you are trying to make angrychair Feb 28 #201
I've been very clear and never said that "nothing is worth doing" Oopsie Daisy Feb 28 #205
+1000 Bengus81 Feb 28 #167
Yes because everyone owns property ibegurpard Feb 27 #11
Requires large enough yard, plenty of sun (ie, few or no trees) and water, spooky3 Feb 27 #36
Your larder runs deep. I can last until May Day I think. bucolic_frolic Feb 27 #13
we'll miss you and I don't consider you a scab Shellback Squid Feb 27 #14
yeah, scabs are people who cross the picket lines DoBW Feb 27 #30
I want a smart Tv for my bedroom. We discussed going tomorrow, but then I remembered the boycott. Raftergirl Feb 27 #15
We recently bought 2 TVs (24" and 32"), $153 for both Freddie Feb 27 #46
Yeah, I don't want too big, 32" would work. The one now is 24".Needs to go on my bureau because I can't lose Raftergirl Feb 27 #49
The one locally owned appliance store nearby Freddie Feb 27 #53
We still have a few. One is super expensive and do huge home entertainment theaters , etc. Their sets start around Raftergirl Feb 27 #106
I can remember when a 23" b&w tv was huge. n/t elocs Feb 27 #77
I had like a 8" or 10" b&w tv in my kitchen for years. It was a give away at my dad's company's Xmas party Raftergirl Feb 27 #99
I've wanted a 4K for years,now the prices are down. I won't be buying though until Trump is gone Bengus81 Feb 28 #175
Direct deposits and payments will be made tomorrow as scheduled MerryBlooms Feb 27 #16
This is why we keep losing. Basso8vb Feb 27 #17
Can you sign up for a CSA. We have had a half share since the pandemic. Love it. We get produce once a week Raftergirl Feb 27 #42
It is ONE DAY Voltaire2 Feb 27 #51
We keep losing because we seem to be unable to simply show up and vote elocs Feb 27 #81
That's one thing that MAGOTS and Republians are good at Bengus81 Feb 28 #179
The boycott is on non essentials Clouds Passing Feb 27 #19
Who gets to decide what is essential? elocs Feb 27 #83
Food and medicine. Clouds Passing Feb 27 #86
Incandescent light bulbs can be cool. Torchlight Feb 27 #21
If you wanted to say something negative, how about wait till after it went down instead of kneecapping it ahead of time? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 27 #22
Thank-you. Why discourage it before it even happens? JohnSJ Feb 27 #78
... Prairie Gates Feb 27 #25
OK happy feet Feb 27 #27
Food and medicine are not included. That's specifically mentioned Arazi Feb 27 #28
Just pick another day to do your boycotting if this day is so important to your shopping efforts. Everyone will SWBTATTReg Feb 27 #29
No, Friday is great since I'm poor and not buying anything that day anyways. n/t elocs Feb 27 #70
By itself, one time is clearly not enough. I hope that part of the idea is to spark interest in long term boycotts Blasphemer Feb 27 #33
Yes. This is another good reason to do the boycott. It is a beginning. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #140
You do you Jilly_in_VA Feb 27 #34
Trying to make a small dip in the "spending data" trend line is an almost painless way of protesting. Grumpy Old Woman Feb 27 #39
yeah , probably not a good dweller Feb 27 #40
I'm so thankful my parents and their generation were not so wishy washy..they stuck to their word Deuxcents Feb 27 #41
For four long years they did without etc. Mariana Feb 27 #89
Thank you but you missed my point and that being this is only a one day event..not a long term Deuxcents Feb 27 #124
If people are buying on Thursday and Saturday so they can skip Friday Mariana Feb 27 #125
It isn't about giving things up. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #139
You keep saying this. thucythucy Feb 28 #161
EVERYTHING we try will make a difference. Oligarchs get their wealth and power Scrivener7 Feb 27 #138
"But, but, but I must have my latte and brioche." - Sunshine Patriots BoRaGard Feb 27 #43
I probably wasn't going to buy anything anyway. maxsolomon Feb 27 #44
I'm doing a 4 yr + economic boycott, only buying Canadian goods if I need anything outside of local food needs. nt yaesu Feb 27 #47
This is my goal as well. nt Blasphemer Feb 27 #71
Me too. Food, fuel and emergencies. But I think the one day boycott is a good message to send. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #137
Wow, that was tone-deaf synni Feb 27 #48
Excellent response! Gimpyknee Feb 27 #113
It's a statement. It's a start. Gore1FL Feb 27 #50
Than don't do anything. The status quo is just fine. bif Feb 27 #52
I will participate, but I agree... Mike Nelson Feb 27 #55
People can just shop the day before or after. Mariana Feb 27 #87
This was posted just to rile folks up. bif Feb 27 #56
Thank you for noticing this. I'm a little surprised so many people Mike 03 Feb 27 #67
I was going to comment further bif Feb 27 #92
We should have a DUU nilram Feb 28 #206
Nope. Any form of resistance is welcome. Gardening works for you, great. Phoning, emailing, confronting legislators, Timeflyer Feb 27 #57
I thought it was solely an economic blackout of Trump supporting businesses AStern Feb 27 #58
Yes, exactly! PLEASE at least boycott AMAZON and WALMART !!! LymphocyteLover Feb 27 #60
I'm sorry but this seems incredibly petty LymphocyteLover Feb 27 #59
Are you saying to all those who are taking part and want a display of consumer power and Doodley Feb 27 #61
I'm saying that because small and focused & local boycotts are the successful ones. elocs Feb 27 #74
Who is being hurt by it? Doodley Feb 27 #80
How will it be known exactly who is being hurt? elocs Feb 27 #84
To be clear, are you against this action? Doodley Feb 27 #91
Yes, because it will not have a significant impact elocs Feb 27 #134
You haven't been able to say who these people are that will be hurt. The reason is nobody will be hurt. Doodley Feb 28 #162
No one will be hurt by it. Mariana Feb 27 #85
whatever stillcool Feb 27 #62
A one day boycott seems pointless, if the spending is merely shifted to a different RockRaven Feb 27 #65
I disagree. Strongly. The boycott has many purposes. One of them is solidarity. It is saying, "This is what we can do. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #135
I shopped on my payday Marthe48 Feb 27 #68
Don't participate then. Kingofalldems Feb 27 #73
Laughable. live love laugh Feb 27 #76
I would start with 1 month... S/V Loner Feb 27 #79
And...that's where this movement is headed. You have to crawl before you walk Bengus81 Feb 28 #176
OP posted and ran away from an active thread. Is the motive disruption? Post and run is symptomatic. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 27 #82
Did you notice the 14%? Kingofalldems Feb 27 #96
It's exactly because it's a busy shopping day that it was picked relayerbob Feb 27 #88
missing one Friday sale is too big an ask? mike_c Feb 27 #90
There's always going to be someone. I think tomorrow will be good for all of us who participate. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #129
How dare you call a plan to fight back Nazis 'bullshit'. Kingofalldems Feb 27 #93
After a nanosecond of consideration, I realized that this OP is bullshit. Pinback Feb 27 #95
Just ask Target DownriverDem Feb 27 #97
If people had decided to stop shopping at Target for just one day Mariana Feb 27 #130
I wish I could do this but I seem to have black thumbs. joanbarnes Feb 27 #100
Gee, sorry it inconveniences you mcar Feb 27 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Feb 27 #102
Economic blackout is extended to the big tech companies like Google, Comcast, AT & T, Verizon, etc. too ? MichMan Feb 27 #104
Turning off my Xfinity box @midnight ! Captain Zero Feb 27 #145
Over 70% of population lives payday to payday womanofthehills Feb 27 #105
The request isn't absolute IbogaProject Feb 27 #107
I'm firmly commited to it! Richard D Feb 27 #108
Suit yourself! Why the fuss? Hope22 Feb 27 #110
I went to Sam's to get some twirly birds Keepthesoulalive Feb 27 #111
This is a REALLY important point. It's as much about solidarity as anything else. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #128
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil SocialDemocrat61 Feb 27 #115
Thanks for sharing Blues Heron Feb 27 #116
So don't do it. I think it's an excellent idea. I'm all in. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #126
Ok so you can't do it. That's ok. Captain Zero Feb 27 #132
I disagree. phylny Feb 27 #133
After careful consideration senseandsensibility Feb 27 #136
If I have big bags of rice, lentils, and dried fruit in my pantry I'm happy. hunter Feb 27 #141
This is all about a show of unity. CareyOn Feb 27 #144
It needs to be longer term, say 3 years and 10 months... AntiFascist Feb 27 #148
Agreed. At its core, it's yet more meaningless "virtue signaling" at best. Hellbound Hellhound Feb 27 #150
Of course its bullshit. It only matters if you stop using Amazon TOTALLY Callie1979 Feb 27 #151
Then don't take part. hatrack Feb 27 #152
I wish we could all quit Amazon kenziemom06 Feb 27 #156
I used to buy pretty much everything from Amazon over the years. No I can go a year without buying there Bengus81 Feb 28 #174
You know better than Robert Reich? Easterncedar Feb 27 #157
+1000. Paladin Feb 28 #171
"I say this as a gardener." Prairie Gates Feb 28 #189
Bomb dropped in the forum, 100s of responses, no reply Prairie Gates Feb 28 #188
The primary issue I see against tomorrow is that it's the end of the month. haele Feb 27 #158
I trust you PeterIsMyBrother Feb 27 #159
So instead sit at home,watch the latest outrage on MTN/BTC and shout at the TV Bengus81 Feb 28 #165
this is to establish a baseline for future methods of resistance... samnsara Feb 28 #172
If we want to upend the oligarchy lets cancel Christmas. Mosby Feb 28 #186
It is NOT bullshit. It's unity. The point is unity! nolabear Feb 28 #190
Every act of resistance helps GoreWon2000 Feb 28 #191
More boycotts NJCher Feb 28 #194
Why do you feel the need to trash the idea? If you don't want to participate that's fine. Just move along. Hotler Feb 28 #196
As a first step and effort, it's not BS at all Chakaconcarne Feb 28 #198
If missing today's sale is going to break your bank then go get your cookies or whatever. nilram Feb 28 #202
Bless your heart. jrthin Feb 28 #204
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