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Mr.Bill

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48. I hope you're not calling me a gun nut, because I've never owned one.

Reply to Zoeisright (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:24 AM

Dec 2012

And I don't plan to.

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I think people are really overlooking the biggest issue here. [View all] Initech Dec 2012 OP

Its all of it. All of it needs to change. There is no one biggest issue. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #1

+1 progressoid Dec 2012 #6

"All of it needs to change." Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #51

But you do have to admit that our media causes a lot of our problems. Initech Dec 2012 #55

Irresponsible, negligent gun owners who let their toys be used for murder kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #2

I agree. But there is no evidence that the mother was irresponsible. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #9

The fact that a young man who lived in her house Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #12

You don't know that they weren't locked up. And prior to this he had not MichiganVote Dec 2012 #13

And you don't know that they were locked up. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #14

He may well have had a key or knew where she kept it. So what? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #16

We'll have to agree to disagree Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #22

All cars are potentially dangerous too. But its a safe bet that 5mph vs. 95mph MichiganVote Dec 2012 #26

Agreed, and exactly my point. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #27

Except when they steal your care my dear. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #31

But they will have to work to get at it. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #32

You don't know that Bill. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #34

And to get back to your post #9, which prompted my response. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #39

:) Yes, its only a discussion board. We haven't been elevated to the Supreme Court yet. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #40

LOL Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #42

The end result is the same. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #46

I hope you're not calling me a gun nut, because I've never owned one. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #48

Not this crap again. Initech Dec 2012 #49

You like me don't ya'? Its ok, a lot of people like me. I don't ask for it. Just happens. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #57

why does that make her irresponsible??? TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #52

Thank you for your thoughtful and eloquent if lengthy post. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #54

He was 20 years old. Making him responsible for his actions under the law. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #58

If she had a dangerous person in her home and then did NOT secure her guns so that he could not kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #15

Actually she was shot to death. In her bed. In the face. Four times. Feel better? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #17

I thought it was more than four..... in any case.... glinda Dec 2012 #23

He may not have wanted her to live with what he was about to do. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #24

Oh, yes, I'm sure he was actually a compassionate and caring person. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #37

not glinda Dec 2012 #44

I was being sarcastic. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #53

I know.... glinda Dec 2012 #56

I don't feel good about any of this. But SHE set the situation up. What other outcome kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #36

Yeah. That's the point. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #45

Yup. I made the same point in an OP yesterday. Bonobo Dec 2012 #3

And here's another... joeunderdog Dec 2012 #38

Sadly, some are in denial. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #41

Even before that. undeterred Dec 2012 #4

Acutally th worst was in Bath Michigan. Home to the GOP who wants guns in schools today. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #11

We need to abolish the 2nd Amendment. Walk away Dec 2012 #5

Most amendment have been interpreted to meet today's standards. The 2nd rhett o rick Dec 2012 #8

Which is precisely how the Court interpreted the 2nd Amendment thucythucy Dec 2012 #25

Yes, I agree. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #43

DC V. HELLER derby378 Dec 2012 #20

Thirty-five or six Red States States will vote against that one.... glinda Dec 2012 #47

Have you watched any of the Survivalist shows? HockeyMom Dec 2012 #7

I've seen Doomsday Preppers - those people are certified nutjobs. Initech Dec 2012 #18

people watching these sick shows are a big problem too Skittles Dec 2012 #28

Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #10

It's already begun. Initech Dec 2012 #21

the media is the problem Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #19

MSM started licking their chops after 9/11 about all of the profits they would make! And it's never RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29

Irony is the MSM concern for how the shooting will affect children nationwide, a problem they caused FarCenter Dec 2012 #30

We need to copy the system we created for the privilege-based ownership and use of automobiles. libdem4life Dec 2012 #33

If it bleeds, it leads. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #35

Yup exactly, scare the crap out of people 24/7 and it only leads to bad things. Initech Dec 2012 #50

There is no single cause Taverner Dec 2012 #59