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Spider Jerusalem

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20. A few points:

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:59 PM

Dec 2012

Massachusetts ranks second in per-capita income, first in percentage of the population with a college degree, has some of the best state-provided mental health services in the country, a population that is over 90% urban, and a relatively low degree of racial and ethnic diversity compared to many other states (MA is 84% white). All of these social, cultural, and socioeconomic factors probably affect the firearms death rate more than state gun laws do.

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I live in a STRONG gun-control state. Ask me anything. [View all] MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 OP

Which state? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #1

Massachusetts. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #2

Any mass murders using guns? GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #3

12 years ago, 7 people were killed. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #4

Prior to the stricter laws? GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #5

After. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #7

Were there any further changes made after that incident? GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #8

Not that I recall. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #15

Do you think that's what's causing your low rate? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #6

Massachuseets is very low compared to other industrialized and urban populous states MightyMopar Dec 2012 #9

Vermont has about three times the rate of firearms deaths per capita MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #11

But not three times the gun murder rate. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #16

I think it has to do with population density also Marrah_G Dec 2012 #12

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #17

I should also be noted that each town police chief has to sign off on every handgun permit Marrah_G Dec 2012 #10

But Vermont has far more firearms deaths per capita, compared to MA MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #13

Suicides, yes...but accidents are uncommon in the extreme. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #18

That's 23 Newtown massacres a year. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #19

If someone really wants to kill themselves they will find a way Marrah_G Dec 2012 #21

True, but suicide can be an impulsive things if guns are around. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #22

Third way Manny and myself agree on something for a change NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #14

A few points: Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #20