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liberalhistorian

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26. Part of it is the dirty little secret
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

that, in this contemporary society, there is, unfortunately, little place for them other than in a rareified academic world that most people often just don't understand. It's a very real human need to feel connected to and a part of others and a group, whether you recognize it or not, and, for all of our hypocritical lauding of the "innovative" and the "creative" and those who move us forward by using the "American spirit of originality and invention", we don't really practice it in the real world. We want and expect conformity and are suspicious of those who do not fit what we believe to be "normal", and they know that.

People who are different are often made to FEEL that difference constantly, daily, almost everywhere they go. Some, like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, (and, in earlier times, those like Thomas Edison) embrace it and use it to move forward and make the inventions and changes they envision. Too many others, though, either don't or don't know how, or are constantly being pressured to be "normal" by those around them, including family (as I believe was the case with this shooter), who don't want to deal with such difference.

My young adult son has Asperger's Syndrome and I've watched him grow up having to deal with it, as he's dealing with it now. He still has yet to find his "groove" and his social impairments make it that much more difficult for him to do so, despite his genius-level intelligence and original way of thinking. Actually, that may very well be WHY, as it intimidated even his own teachers often. If he didn't have a strong foundation of continuing family love, support and acceptance, things might very well be different with him emotionally.

Young men are often bullied Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #1
And it is nearly always young men. Occasionally it's younger teenage boys, but it's nearly always SharonAnn Dec 2012 #16
The Age & Gender Issue RobinA Dec 2012 #55
I'd guess they had a healthy regard for their own intelligence and felt under appreciated. dkf Dec 2012 #2
The day that the two of us agree on something has finally arrived. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #8
I'd call that an unhealthy regard alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #35
+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #38
I think so. My guess is it's likely a toxic mix of Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #50
Maybe we should try to have fewer outcasts. dawg Dec 2012 #3
Agree! nt Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #4
They are bullied and excluded from the social network Speck Tater Dec 2012 #5
^^^^ this. nt magical thyme Dec 2012 #22
Intelligent people are better able to function with and conceal potentially-violent mental illness Azathoth Dec 2012 #6
and they are more capable of the planning required for truly horrific massacres DBoon Dec 2012 #32
Students with high IQ are often bullied while a lower IQ athlete is placed on a pedestal. That jody Dec 2012 #7
We actually agree on something. white_wolf Dec 2012 #10
When you are right, we will always agree. jody Dec 2012 #11
This n/t OhioChick Dec 2012 #21
bullying kids with high IQs needs to be stopped but sometimes sports are all kids with low IQ have liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #46
Maybe we should have programs for gifted and talented kids that value them. FarCenter Dec 2012 #9
For every $11 we spend on children with learning needs, we spend 2 cents on gifted students. I don't jody Dec 2012 #13
+100. white_wolf Dec 2012 #29
I agree with you liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #47
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #36
I had the same reaction as you did. nt Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #40
Yeah, educating kids to the best of their ability mcar Dec 2012 #49
You just gotta shake your head sometimes here. FSogol Dec 2012 #54
Holy Oversimplification Batman! FSogol Dec 2012 #12
Care to enlighten us? nt Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #15
Where to start? FSogol Dec 2012 #42
I used the term "nerd" in quotes because I had just read a Huffington post article that did so Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #45
Not true: "Columbine - Honors students" and "Virgina Tec - Honors student" FSogol Dec 2012 #53
moved to op Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #14
Their parents treat them like furniture. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #17
A lot of it is chronic stressors. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #18
I heard Thom Hartmann talking about this too. Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #19
Thom is great. white_wolf Dec 2012 #30
Now I'm worried that Bill Gates is going to lash out at all of us. undeterred Dec 2012 #20
You don't think that's exactly what his promotion of school "reforms" are? JVS Dec 2012 #31
He can harm millions of kids and never go to jail leftstreet Dec 2012 #39
I was gifted but spared that label (they didn't label us back in the day). kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #23
FFS! use some critical thinking intaglio Dec 2012 #24
Name one recent school shooting that was not by an gifted child Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #44
And all but one was white, so what? intaglio Dec 2012 #48
the common link without a single doubt green for victory Dec 2012 #25
+1 for meds & drugs/alcohol used in general INSTEAD OF SOLUTIONS or solution oriented patrice Dec 2012 #27
Good point. And if he was bi-polar, for example, taking an SSRI instead of pnwmom Dec 2012 #43
Part of it is the dirty little secret liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #26
Sports stars are glorified, morons such as the shrub are glorifed, Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #51
Have had three relatives have psychotic breaks- the smartest and most sensitive people in my family bettyellen Dec 2012 #28
Group therapy can be a crutch too. & The last time I looked at the research, there's a position patrice Dec 2012 #33
Young women are also bullied, for pity's sake! LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #34
maybe there should be more emphasis on stopping the bullying fizzgig Dec 2012 #37
I was bullied until my middle teens when a spurt of growth made it a bad choice for those who jody Dec 2012 #41
Just because you are an honor student does not mean you are gifted.. Peacetrain Dec 2012 #52
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