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DaniDubois

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41. Do you really believe all those fully automatic weapons just disappeared from the hands of the

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:23 AM

Dec 2012

rednecks and gun nuts? I can promise you they didn't. All that law did was assure that people like you aren't able to get them. The people who don't want them anyway.

And yes, I'd say it's pretty safe to safe to compare a ban on guns to the ban on drugs. We've seen the US government arming the Mexican cartels with the fast and furious. Those cartels murdered innocent people who had no way to protect themselves because it was illegal for them to have a gun. There's no denying this and this was done by the US government.

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Chicago banned handguns 28 years ago. 5000 killed there by guns. Are we safe yet? [View all] DaniDubois Dec 2012 OP

Ban all guns then SoonerPride Dec 2012 #1

+1 femmocrat Dec 2012 #2

What do you intend to do with all the guns out there? Codeine Dec 2012 #6

Melt them down SoonerPride Dec 2012 #9

Who's going to collect them? nt Codeine Dec 2012 #12

No one would need to collect them DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #16

What an amazing kneejerk and after you've imprisoned more americans that at any time in history will Kurska Dec 2012 #43

So in other word....totalitarianism is the answer? davidn3600 Dec 2012 #47

agreed...we need more of this attitude backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #54

We don't have to re-invent this wheel.......... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #18

Color me clueless... how did they get "rid" of handguns in Europe? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #51

No that's not what I'm saying, but the number of handguns there has been restricted enough TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #93

What worked in Europe would fail in the United States at this time. ... spin Dec 2012 #62

Who the fuck cares what kind of a NIGHTMARE it is? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #46

No need to worry about it because it would never happen. Kennah Dec 2012 #52

You don't even have to officially repeal it Ter Dec 2012 #29

The weaponeers seem to be running with this "mental health and antidepressants" meme lately Kolesar Dec 2012 #3

It IS true. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #58

Ban overturned by the McDonald v. Chicago ruling in 2010 RomneyLies Dec 2012 #4

+1 krawhitham Dec 2012 #30

Funny how the OP missed that tidbit. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #36

They passed a new just as strict ban n/t Kurska Dec 2012 #45

Good AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #48

I see the gun fellatiators are running out of talking points. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #5

They could claim more people die from global warming than gunfire. But that would mean they believe Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #15

Calling me an asshat and horseshit isn't going to solve anything. This has everything to do DaniDubois Dec 2012 #22

So are the people killing people in Mexico all crazy? NOOOOOO Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #27

No Dave, the people killing people in Mexico are cartels who were armed by the US government through DaniDubois Dec 2012 #42

the chicago killings are also inter-gang drugtrade driven for elehhhhna Dec 2012 #57

Curiously enough Mexico has some of the strictest gun controls laws IN THE WORLD. Edweird Dec 2012 #75

well it makes us feel better, posting in defense of guns right after this event Demonaut Dec 2012 #35

You use the "cars kill people" talking point AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #50

Also when they talk about war deaths they only seem to talk about one side Bandit Dec 2012 #81

For starters, maybe non-Chicagoans might... ah, fuck it. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #7

What they forget to tell you about Chicago is the fact that there is no longer a ban RomneyLies Dec 2012 #17

THe NRA and their memes can go to hell. myrna minx Dec 2012 #8

How can that help when a gun show 5 miles away is still selling automatic weapons? nt LittlestStar Dec 2012 #10

It costs a fortune to buy an automatic weapon Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #60

Suicidal tendencies and violent, destructive thoughts behavioral side effects lunasun Dec 2012 #11

300 million guns in the US. Are we safe yet? neverforget Dec 2012 #13

+1 moondust Dec 2012 #37

Bunch of fucking lies. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #14

first rule of fight club tiny elvis Dec 2012 #19

We'll be safer if we ban ammo Generic Brad Dec 2012 #20

Don't know about Chicago (thugs took over during the ban?) but stats prove you're wrong. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #21

Waiting periods seem like a great idea Kolesar Dec 2012 #24

I have a gun for protection. I would have no problem with a waiting period.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #68

& If some of the customers are unavailable, then the market price for the product drops Kolesar Dec 2012 #72

The NRA leadership is a true terrorist organization fearnobush Dec 2012 #23

Let's just ban all laws since so many people flout them anyway MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #25

There ya go! forestpath Dec 2012 #26

Your post made me sad. I was alive at a time when people still believed in personal responsibility. DaniDubois Dec 2012 #40

"We didn't need laws...." ARE YOU COMPLETELY STUPID?? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #76

Libertarian horseshit. Nt. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #85

The bodies are still fucking warm sellitman Dec 2012 #87

I think you're looking for LibertarianUnderground.com theKed Dec 2012 #89

What color is the sky in Personal Responsibilityland? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #91

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #28

Chicago doesn't have a border patrol. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #31

Sometimes an OP is SO stupid that it defies belief. Bonobo Dec 2012 #32

keep on defending the indefensible...douchebag arguement Demonaut Dec 2012 #33

Because Chicago is an island totally cut off from the US mainland, right? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #34

Banning on the federal level worked really well for drugs. The government became the dealers the DaniDubois Dec 2012 #38

Except we're not talking about drugs, are we? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #39

Do you really believe all those fully automatic weapons just disappeared from the hands of the DaniDubois Dec 2012 #41

You clearly have no idea what sort of person I happen to be Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #53

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #56

Another stupid false equivalency. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #55

No drugs cant go on a murder spree but the US government can arm the bad guys as they've done DaniDubois Dec 2012 #59

For your excuse to work there would have to be zero guns anywhere in the world. Edweird Dec 2012 #80

Because London and Melbourne and Tokyo have serious gun crime problems, right? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #95

Does Chicago have a 30 foot wall around it? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #44

It's not false. My point is the US government supplies the weapons to the criminals once you make DaniDubois Dec 2012 #61

anyone who believes this OP is serious should read this post. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #64

Somebody spent too much time in the room with the tube of airplane glue open...eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #66

You did not mention gang violence in your OP AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #49

FBI: Burgeoning gangs behind up to 80% of U.S. crime former-republican Dec 2012 #63

80% of shootings in the country are gang related? AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #86

Prove it wrong former-republican Dec 2012 #90

Your the one making the assertion AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #96

OP logic... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #65

12 hours after the fact, cops still busy recording blood spatter data in the kindergarten . . . hatrack Dec 2012 #67

You really should remove pintobean Dec 2012 #69

Why do you imagine that I care what you think? hatrack Dec 2012 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Dec 2012 #73

Well said...eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #82

Chicago violence stems from poverty & lack of opportunity. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #71

So the basic premise of your horseshit post... 99Forever Dec 2012 #74

That is a very typical tactic, isn't it? LisaLynne Dec 2012 #77

It's the same play that always gets used. 99Forever Dec 2012 #83

Oh, well, that would be silly! LisaLynne Dec 2012 #84

More RW gun-nut stupidity. baldguy Dec 2012 #78

go away gun NUTS spanone Dec 2012 #79

Keep the guns, ban the ammo. Beacool Dec 2012 #88

The supply of easily obtainable firearms is a NATIONAL problem... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #92

Jury voted 4-2 to keep NRA gun troll post. Too bad. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #94

I don't think the gun nuts appreciate our anger. Bonobo Dec 2012 #97

I've already said repeatedly "alert on all of them and vote to hide". Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #98

What you are saying is "I won't let them take retread Dec 2012 #99