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jody

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14. Congress has all the authority it needs for the militia in Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 & 16.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:50 AM

Dec 2012

The Second Amendment is redundant if it pertains only to militia.

2A obligates government to protect RKBA along with the other enumerated rights.

Before the Articles of Confederation or Constitution there were state constitutions.

A DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OR STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA 28 Sept. 1776
"That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights, amongst which are, the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."
And
"That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."

VT (1777) used the same words in its Constitution but changed "Inalienable" to "unalienable"

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The Second Amendment and it's origin. [View all] nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 OP

What, you don't think the militia part was a typo? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #1

I know, I know...goofs all of them. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #4

"Militia" becomes less relevant if you have a tendency to either drop or ignore the 3rd comma. patrice Dec 2012 #17

France has had 16 Constitutions since 1789 BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #2

Why I said they want to shoot those military grade guns nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #3

Six...ironic BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #5

I know nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6

I thought he only used pistols. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #8

50 rounds in 8 seconds. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #24

Would you really want to draft a new Constitution in today's political climate? Azathoth Dec 2012 #9

No one's who's life depends on it will ever trust electronic technology to make it work. This.. Logical Dec 2012 #7

Police is actually testing it in the field. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #10

I have read about that study. The current technology is 90% reliable... Logical Dec 2012 #11

That is why I said, once it matures. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #12

Stopping kids from accidentlly shooting themselves is the biggest benefit to me! Logical Dec 2012 #13

Me as well nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #19

Congress has all the authority it needs for the militia in Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 & 16. jody Dec 2012 #14

Yes, but you know what the context of men was nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15

I think you're on the right track with this & there was support for you in a post here a few patrice Dec 2012 #16

It is indeed, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #18

Oh, I agree completely about "original intent" compared to where we are now & I have written about patrice Dec 2012 #20

And this, Jefferson is standing in the background nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #21

Perfection is sterile. There's a kind of genius in imperfection. Some of the great poets were patrice Dec 2012 #22

That is an interesting connection. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23

How the 2nd Amendment could be rewritten to accommodate today's world astounds me loyalsister Dec 2012 #25

What the founders expected was Switzerland nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #26

do you think loyalsister Dec 2012 #27

To them the State militia, drilling once a month, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #28

right! napkinz Dec 2012 #29