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CrispyQ

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13. They've certainly had a hugely negative impact.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:17 PM
Dec 2012

I will toast the day when Limbaugh passes. Calling a 14 year old girl the White House dog. Fuck you, you fucking coward.

But that's much too difficult to do. Tansy_Gold Dec 2012 #1
I used guns as a kid with my dad upaloopa Dec 2012 #2
Absolutely I see the difference. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #6
Yep. Today people pretend to be killing machines, not hunters. It's demented. reformist2 Dec 2012 #39
How old are you? I'm 42 and my GRANDPARENTS had all manner of automatic weaponry. Edweird Dec 2012 #80
I'm 66 and i had a m-14 and a 1911 in Vietnam in 1967 and 1968. You don't go hunting with your dad upaloopa Dec 2012 #111
I think that 20 years of hate and shock radio are the most to blame lunatica Dec 2012 #3
Who do the hate and shock radio assholes advocate for? The NRA and gun nutz Care Acutely Dec 2012 #10
They've certainly had a hugely negative impact. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #13
That is certainly a part of it. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #25
Well said. n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #108
Absolutely and that they have been PAID to spew their Disinfomation makes it all the KoKo Dec 2012 #115
Yes, all of these things are to blame. alarimer Dec 2012 #43
That makes sense to me. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #107
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #4
No, this is just an audition. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #8
My elementary background was the same as yours. Downwinder Dec 2012 #21
But the Westerns were fantasy-land, Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #29
That is where we diverge. Downwinder Dec 2012 #41
In WWII we were also dropping paratroopers, who-- Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #48
Well, you westerners always were kinda nuts. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #49
That was uncalled for. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #36
No, he's a gun apologist. You can't have such a conversation with them. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #46
I didn't see him apologizing for guns... ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #63
So just continue to stick your fingers in your ears... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #75
That's not at all what I got from his post. MH1 Dec 2012 #77
Agreed JohnnyLib2 Dec 2012 #57
WTF? What kind of BULLSHIT is that? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #62
I'd say it's both. Fearless Dec 2012 #5
Yes. Guns are too easy for the Cha Dec 2012 #7
It's a multi-faceted issue. The fetish of armed violence is one part. DirkGently Dec 2012 #9
I think you make a lot of good points. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #14
It is an excellent book TomClash Dec 2012 #23
Sounds like an interesting book. DirkGently Dec 2012 #50
I think the causes & symptoms are all entangled Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #54
they use these "games" riverwalker Dec 2012 #76
People feel marginalized... and they are... and they don't have the tools to cope. dogknob Dec 2012 #11
+10000 frostfern Dec 2012 #34
"Turn down your car stereo or Ima shoot you" Myrina Dec 2012 #113
the mind set and the games socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #12
Some of us were talking about the video games today. OnionPatch Dec 2012 #69
We want to eliminate war and we train our kids with video war games. socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #72
The problem is western civilization's perverted concept of masculinity - CrispyQ Dec 2012 #15
I agree. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #18
well thanks JR, isn't it funny that the people who don't want to discuss violence tend to bully bettyellen Dec 2012 #66
Thank you. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #92
Well...that's an interesting point to think about... KoKo Dec 2012 #114
I think there is some kind of cultural malfunction limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #16
Part of it is the RW promotion of chronic rage. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #28
Is this rage, or psychosis? DirkGently Dec 2012 #51
The problem from a scientific perspective Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #53
It is our society... frostfern Dec 2012 #17
Yes...it seems the "shooter" was pretty isolated in his affluent neighborhood where KoKo Dec 2012 #119
I disagree. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #19
Guns are still part of the problem TomClash Dec 2012 #20
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #22
Nice post. Why someone wants to kill is a problem more than the weapons used to do it. Logical Dec 2012 #24
Mental health should be job #1 Separation Dec 2012 #26
Honestly? It's both. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #27
So address ALL issues, including gun control. randome Dec 2012 #30
That's fine with me. I just didn't want to see gun control touted Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #33
Violent crime and twisted antiheroes are pervasive in entertainment today. reformist2 Dec 2012 #31
Ever read the Bible? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #60
you have to make the effort to open up that thing and know how to read... Whisp Dec 2012 #67
My dear Jackpine nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #32
I don't know that you can prove your point about video games Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #47
Yes, there are differences in the culture nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #55
I think my essential point is that the problem is complex, and Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #56
In that we both fully agree nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #59
The Japanese Culture seems one of Acceptance of "Events" We nuked them KoKo Dec 2012 #117
I like the way you said that. DirkGently Dec 2012 #52
It isn't just TV, movies and games. It is also our government. modem77 Dec 2012 #121
I'm not so sure Major Nikon Dec 2012 #35
Canada is close to us in ownership nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #37
They also don't allow handguns. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #38
Except for very specific and limited cases nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #40
Canada has far more restrictions on guns Major Nikon Dec 2012 #42
It does nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #45
That's been my point the whole time but no one wants to talk about that davidn3600 Dec 2012 #44
The last two paragraphs-- JohnnyLib2 Dec 2012 #58
And the "culture of violence" has nothing to do with the fact that all those guns are out there? Bonobo Dec 2012 #61
It really can't be just the presence of guns. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #64
That pretty much parallels the experience I reported in the OP. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #74
I have a 357 ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #98
I don't know if I can explain this very well, but what I see is the eruption of the "shadow" out of scarletwoman Dec 2012 #65
"U.S. mass culture must surely be one of the most determinedly denialist of any society on earth" Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #73
Excellent analysis. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #78
That's a dark truth worthy of an OP or 20. DirkGently Dec 2012 #79
"I don't know if I can explain this very well…" Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #85
Great post. n/t Jamastiene Dec 2012 #90
Ah, a fellow Jungian! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #93
Not to mention one of your fellow Minnesotans. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #99
Food for thought. Hugin Dec 2012 #94
+1...And I wonder if the more sensitive in our population sees Cognitive Dissonance KoKo Dec 2012 #110
Cognitive & emotional overload. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #112
Look at what all of the recent events have in common WinniSkipper Dec 2012 #68
Kicking this because this is a thoughtful post worthy of more discussion. (nt) scarletwoman Dec 2012 #70
Completely 100% fucking wrong. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #71
Machine guns used to be sold mail order. Edweird Dec 2012 #82
But isn't owning lots of guns a part of the culture of violence??? reformist2 Dec 2012 #81
Not really. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #100
"Violent media" isn't the problem...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #83
"97% of people who do play violent video games are just fine" Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #84
Look, Jackpine, I know.... AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #87
Yeah, it reminded me of the "Heavy metal is satanic" argument I heard over GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #106
I play a game, Civilization, where I am razing whole cities and slaughtering the populace. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #95
"I don't feel any urge to actually commit genocide or mass murder." Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #96
More than 97% of people who own guns never shoot anybody. n/t ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #101
Since this OP seems to be a rational discussion of the situation, I'll posit this... Hugin Dec 2012 #86
OK, I'm sort of an environmental-genetic interactionist Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #88
It is of course as all things are... Relative. Hugin Dec 2012 #89
Well, at least it keeps us off the street. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #97
True. Hugin Dec 2012 #103
Guns are just as common per capital in Canada than in the US... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #91
Not sure about the "culture of violence" argument . . . hatrack Dec 2012 #102
Agreed. I think this is more about people feeling they have no voice GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #105
Good post Jim Warren Dec 2012 #104
Culture and almost worship of violence in Media, Movies, even Commercials these days.. KoKo Dec 2012 #109
Allow me to translate quaker bill Dec 2012 #116
But, the guns got more and more sophisticated and took over the primitive ways that KoKo Dec 2012 #118
My point was quaker bill Dec 2012 #120
But how are you going to get guns out of the culture? Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #122
It would be easier than fixing "the culture of violence" quaker bill Dec 2012 #123
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