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Johnny2X2X

(22,934 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:35 AM Dec 2024

Don't let relatives gaslight you, re: not speaking to Trump voters [View all]

Last edited Mon Dec 16, 2024, 02:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Like many here, I just can't believe Trump won. And I just don't know how to approach the people I know who voted for Trump. My wife won't speak to her two nieces because they voted for him, she was very close to both of them.

Your feelings are valid, it's a 2 way street, don't allow other family members to gaslight you about your feelings. You aren't "dividing the family..." You have every right to feel how you feel. With Christmas next week, there's going to be pressures and claims of unfairness, don't allow it.

I simply cannot reconcile voting for Trump with being a good and decent person. I cannot find an excuse yet and won't for some time. Maybe I will get there, maybe I won't, but I need to be allowed to go through my own process on it. I do not need to be made to feel guilty. It's not my fault that people revealed their true character, (or lack of) with their vote.

Everyone's situation is different. But I see a ton of gaslighting going on right now with people making it out like people bitter over the loss of our democracy are being petty and unreasonable. This isn't politics, this is morals and ethics. Right or wrong, a vote for Trump seems like a personal choice to hurt people. Choices have consequences. Don't let people diminish you and what has happened to our nation.

And it is a 2 way street. There are Trump voters feeling slighted by their relatives and friends no longer speaking to them. Well, what have they done to reach out and mend fences?


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"I simply cannot reconcile voting for Trump with being a good and decent person." Dennis Donovan Dec 2024 #1
I found it hard the first time mnhtnbb Dec 2024 #33
The first time, I could put it down to ignorance Bettie Dec 2024 #51
Truth. I'm expunging all that I can. Funtatlaguy Dec 2024 #36
and I still don't thnk Trump won azureblue Dec 2024 #44
Lots of shady stuff in the lost swing states IbogaProject Dec 2024 #94
Yes, but they know the Democrats won't question anyone about it. OldBaldy1701E Dec 2024 #110
I agree BlueKentuckyGirl Dec 2024 #118
Really good post. I have accepted intellectually that Trump won Mike 03 Dec 2024 #2
"But I'm still a good person" Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #3
People are as good or bad as what they do. You don't get to do bad things and still be a "good person." hay rick Dec 2024 #10
Gratuitous cruelty is Trump's political capital The Wizard Dec 2024 #38
and Putin's bots azureblue Dec 2024 #47
"You're a good person" azureblue Dec 2024 #45
No person who voted for Trump is "still a good person." NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2024 #75
He ran( and ran it into the ground) on who and what he was against,not who and what he was for. BattleRow Dec 2024 #86
Disembodied is a very good description bronxiteforever Dec 2024 #34
I'm spending the holidays with some of my husbands maga relatives and I know they will be snug kimbutgar Dec 2024 #4
I am with you... berksdem Dec 2024 #15
Rule one in my house The Wizard Dec 2024 #39
Are you going... Escape Dec 2024 #18
My mother in law is 94 and we are driving to where she lives for 10 days, luckily she is a liberal! kimbutgar Dec 2024 #31
Pick up your Mom.. Escape Dec 2024 #58
That's a very sweet invitation! kimbutgar Dec 2024 #77
sometimes family is so overrated Skittles Dec 2024 #87
I usually take something to read and find Bettie Dec 2024 #53
Just don't go. They will ruin the holidays for you. NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2024 #76
It's emotional torture! ReRe Dec 2024 #104
I have to listen to associates who claim louis-t Dec 2024 #5
After 2016 barbtries Dec 2024 #7
It's so personal Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #11
I have a cousin who claims he went to mar a dumbo louis-t Dec 2024 #14
Every one of those boils down to, "I did it for the money." Iggo Dec 2024 #25
More like, "I did it with the hope that he'll put one dollar more in my pocket. And I PaulRevere08 Dec 2024 #71
Record them saying that Bettie Dec 2024 #56
Ha Ha! ReRe Dec 2024 #107
i have fantasy conversations with my brother. barbtries Dec 2024 #6
I have a fantasy conversation if a Trump voter at my family XMS party asks what I think of the election Martin Eden Dec 2024 #24
I question anyone's judgement if they voted for a convicted felon and sexual predator. Emile Dec 2024 #8
I'm different from most of you. PennRalphie Dec 2024 #9
It's not over politics Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #12
It's politics. PennRalphie Dec 2024 #21
We're talking about a man Bettie Dec 2024 #57
And the Dems will allow that PennRalphie Dec 2024 #59
The point isn't what Dems will do Bettie Dec 2024 #60
I'm not shaming anyone or anything PennRalphie Dec 2024 #62
Fetterman rpannier Dec 2024 #127
"Democrat politicians"???? SilasSouleII Dec 2024 #68
A big tell Arazi Dec 2024 #70
Huh? PennRalphie Dec 2024 #72
I caught that too. n/t ReRe Dec 2024 #109
Yeah, it is a big Bettie Dec 2024 #119
Damn straight. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2024 #136
curious Celerity Dec 2024 #85
That's reaching. PennRalphie Dec 2024 #91
Ok. What about 'Democrat politicians'? Celerity Dec 2024 #93
Huh? PennRalphie Dec 2024 #99
The Real Origins of the "Democrat Party" Troll Celerity Dec 2024 #105
From now on, I'll review twice or three times PennRalphie Dec 2024 #108
Better get thicker skin then Arazi Dec 2024 #111
It certainly is not real life. PennRalphie Dec 2024 #113
lol, do you believe anyone here thinks that?! Arazi Dec 2024 #114
I did not write the title of the article, and I chose the article because it gives an excellent history of the pejorative Celerity Dec 2024 #115
"Democrat" politicians vs "Democratic" politicians is RW framing Arazi Dec 2024 #106
Not really rpannier Dec 2024 #128
Suspicious. PennRalphie Dec 2024 #130
If Jan 6th wasn't a deal breaker they are not Americans. Conjuay Dec 2024 #125
So you avoided the topic and ignored that they voted to maxsolomon Dec 2024 #19
Is it reality? PennRalphie Dec 2024 #23
Who has mentioned "disowning"? Arazi Dec 2024 #26
In my experience they like to gloat Bettie Dec 2024 #120
The most outspoken MAGA family member is religious Arazi Dec 2024 #122
It really is Bettie Dec 2024 #132
You're continuing to condescend. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #30
lol ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #54
I know, right? Skittles Dec 2024 #101
Bully for you.. some of us have Trumper family who will bring up politics Arazi Dec 2024 #22
That's because you're better than us. Iggo Dec 2024 #28
gee I wish I had the ability to ignore fascism Skittles Dec 2024 #89
Nacht Und Nebel Erlass - "just politics"; Treblinka - "just politics"; The Dirty War - "just politics" hatrack Dec 2024 #92
Obama ans Biden are VERY different from Dump! Felicita Dec 2024 #50
I am a rape survivor. usedtobedemgurl Dec 2024 #52
This goes way beyond politics. It's morality. NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2024 #78
This goes beyond any previous election. progressoid Dec 2024 #79
under normal circumstances I would agree Skittles Dec 2024 #88
Can't tell if your last sentence is condescension or sarcasm. La Coliniere Dec 2024 #123
One of my nieces is a state judge (in a very red southern state), a Federalist Society member, and a Trumper. Bo Zarts Dec 2024 #13
Wow. progressoid Dec 2024 #80
Outrageous DET Dec 2024 #116
See, you are nicer than I am Bettie Dec 2024 #133
Was at a family holiday celebration Sunday jayschool2013 Dec 2024 #16
I'm the bull in a china shop..and I love it. chouchou Dec 2024 #17
Two terms/concepts help explain their actions and support your boundaries LatteLady Dec 2024 #20
I just completed the process of ghosting my fundagelical sibs. Girard442 Dec 2024 #27
The thing that kills me enigmania Dec 2024 #29
I've solved this problem by not going home for the holidays. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #32
Thank you. I've disowned my father & his wife. Coventina Dec 2024 #35
I didn't disown mine (about the same age) because TBF Dec 2024 #37
Then Don't smb Dec 2024 #43
Yet? More Like "Ever" smb Dec 2024 #40
I need Leslie Jones Arazi Dec 2024 #41
that's exactly how I feel FoxNewsSucks Dec 2024 #42
Very Well Said! Wiz Imp Dec 2024 #46
I think too much silence was a contributing factor in the election results nuxvomica Dec 2024 #48
Your story illustrates why there's "too much silence". maxsolomon Dec 2024 #63
I wasn't being at all provocative nuxvomica Dec 2024 #67
You'll concede that she was provoked, though? maxsolomon Dec 2024 #69
The few members of my family who voted for trump are dead to me now. Paladin Dec 2024 #49
Many people who voted for Trump simply do not accept truth and reality. spooky3 Dec 2024 #55
I'm glad my MAGAt family lives 2000 miles from me Hassler Dec 2024 #61
I've never believed in giving relatives special treatment just because they're relatives. You get the same respect you Karasu Dec 2024 #64
NEVER speak to a Trump voter, NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2024 #65
If you support Nazis, you ARE a Nazi JoseBalow Dec 2024 #66
Johnny2X2X.......... Upthevibe Dec 2024 #73
You said exactly how I feel. nt Jit423 Dec 2024 #74
Re- discussing politics with family members & others... snot Dec 2024 #81
Cessation of contact is not from hatred LatteLady Dec 2024 #84
Agreed, one must pick one's battles, and snot Dec 2024 #95
If you learn anything helpful, please share LatteLady Dec 2024 #138
The growth mainly comes from snot Dec 2024 #139
The ones in my family need cult deprogramming Arazi Dec 2024 #90
Ha ha, I'm not sure it's that powerful, but snot Dec 2024 #97
I lost people in the first election when I replied to them kairos12 Dec 2024 #82
Their vote was about making racism socially acceptable RainCaster Dec 2024 #83
Some are sadly misguided and burdened with religiious beliefs that (they think) Trump believes also. CTyankee Dec 2024 #96
"I simply cannot reconcile voting for Trump with being a good and decent person." The Wandering Harper Dec 2024 #98
I have an 89 year old aunt who voted for Dump. I was close to her, but no more mdbl Dec 2024 #100
NOTED. I cut them off other than to let my sister know I'm OK. CousinIT Dec 2024 #102
Thank gawd I rarely speak to my Rep. brother already so it won't be hard. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #103
I'm with you wryter2000 Dec 2024 #112
In my ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #117
Both our sons voted for Trump, probably all three times. summer_in_TX Dec 2024 #121
At the same time, I'm not going to listen to Redditors or Tik-Tokers or forum posters Seeking Serenity Dec 2024 #124
OMG, this is such a wonderful, brilliant OP all I can say mate is TY👍🏼 arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #126
I told my neighbor.. czarjak Dec 2024 #129
Yup. Martin68 Dec 2024 #131
Amazing that the very gaslighting you mention happens in two responses to your OP Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #134
Kind of funny, yeah Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #137
"I simply cannot reconcile voting for Trump with being a good and decent person" Ferrets are Cool Dec 2024 #135
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