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Aristus

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18. A common argument is "Well, a criminal is going to get a gun any way he can".

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:25 PM

Dec 2012

And while I don't quibble about the persistence of murderous fanatics, I do have to ask: Why the hell are we making it so easy for them? Minimal waiting time, little or no criminal background check, little or no mental health history check, military-grade weaponry on sale at every gun show in the country, no tracking of ammunition sales, etc.

The NRA types are forever babbling about "sensible gun laws" while doing everything in their power to prevent the passage of just those kinds of laws...

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Setting 2nd Amt. talk aside, does gun control work? [View all] closeupready Dec 2012 OP

The practical side is my concern more than "mah rahts" Recursion Dec 2012 #1

As you say, there are few if any relevant precedents. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #14

I believe Israel and Switzerland and Yemen are all closeupready Dec 2012 #15

We already HAVE gun control laws on the books. Bake Dec 2012 #2

That's not my argument, anymore than I would argue closeupready Dec 2012 #4

That the NRA fought tooth and nail. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #29

So enforce them. Bake Dec 2012 #33

Here is a study about Australia which adopted a ban on guns in 1997: closeupready Dec 2012 #3

Here's an article about Australia form the Harvard School of Public Health. DanTex Dec 2012 #9

Nice source...unrec joeybee12 Dec 2012 #12

Wow, that's really uncalled-for. closeupready Dec 2012 #13

Really? Because your source also says: SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #25

Whatever. Give in to your hysteria, because closeupready Dec 2012 #27

You need to back off and shut up. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #30

I learned all I needed to know about a report from the NCPA dballance Dec 2012 #26

I doubt that it would work much for this incident and the one in Oregon. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #5

Well, there's never been a society as heavily armed as the US right now, DanTex Dec 2012 #6

Yes. It works. rrneck Dec 2012 #7

A complete gun ban will start to get some results. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #8

9000+ Murders in US: 39 in UK Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #10

Guns have been largely regulated in most other places Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #11

lets put it this way: we've tried the gun-nut policy. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #16

I don't understand; what are you saying? closeupready Dec 2012 #17

we've tried it their way for the last 20 years. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #21

A common argument is "Well, a criminal is going to get a gun any way he can". Aristus Dec 2012 #18

We're talking about how criminals buy guns Recursion Dec 2012 #19

The problem is that we haven't seen these bans long enough nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #20

Yes, it works, even in the US. States with more gun control have less gun related deaths. morningfog Dec 2012 #22

It can. Design, implantation and end user with the xchrom Dec 2012 #23

Yes, public health and mental health professionals, I agree. closeupready Dec 2012 #24

It exemplifies the problem of our age. xchrom Dec 2012 #31

Of course it does. Just look at every other first world country in the world. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #28

I did. Duh. Clearly, Australia is 3rd World. closeupready Dec 2012 #32

I'm not sure. You'll probably have to compare statistics from the US and Somalia mmonk Dec 2012 #34