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Wiz Imp

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20. You apparently missed where the gay members of the group said 'YMCA' certainly has a gay origin."
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:46 PM
Dec 2024

and “Was the song written to celebrate gay men at the YMCA? Yes. Absolutely.”

Add in song titles from their first several albums: “Fire Island” (the East Coast’s gay summer retreat); “San Francisco (You’ve Got Me)” (the West coast’s premier gay destination); “Village People” (a look at the inhabitants of New York City’s largely gay Greenwich Village); “Key West” (a gay resort destination), “Just a Gigolo,” “I Am What I Am” (a gay declaration), and “Sodom and Gomorrah”. Also Nineteen year-old Felipe Rose, who was Lakota Sioux/Puerto Rican, presented as the “Indian,” a bespangled, war bonnet and loin cloth-wearing Native American, Only Willis and Rose participated on the “Village People” LP–with Rose indecorously credited as “Felipe ‘Indian From the Anvil’“ (the Anvil was a gay NYC sex club).

In the gay culture from which the image and music of the Village People came, the song was implicitly understood as celebrating YMCA's reputation as a popular cruising and hookup spot, particularly for the younger men to whom it was addressed. The initial goal of Village People producers Morali and Belolo was to attract disco's gay audience by featuring popular gay fantasy in their music. Conversely, Willis had said that he wrote the song in Vancouver, British Columbia and, through his publicist, that he did not write "Y.M.C.A." as a gay anthem, but rather as a reflection of the fun activities that young urban black youth experienced at YMCA, such as basketball and swimming. However, Willis has often acknowledged his fondness for double entendre.

Even Willis didn't try to claim that it was about "a way for a young man to get back on track" as you claim. And notice that thing about his fondness for double entendre? He made the gay subtext more subtle in order to appeal to a wider mainstream audience. But make no mistake, he put that gay subtext in there purposely when he wrote the song because the group was targeting their music at a gay audience.

Deny it all you like, but the song was a gay anthem and celebrated by the gay community from day one.

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Village People Songwriter Threatens to Sue Anyone That Calls "Y.M.C.A." a Gay Anthem DesertRain Dec 2024 #1
At most the lyrics hint at it... lame54 Dec 2024 #2
Are you serious? JCMach1 Dec 2024 #6
That may be but... lame54 Dec 2024 #8
The band's frontman claimed the hit dance song isn't gay, but his gay bandmates remember things differently. Wiz Imp Dec 2024 #10
I always thought it was a gay anthem... lame54 Dec 2024 #17
You apparently missed where the gay members of the group said 'YMCA' certainly has a gay origin." Wiz Imp Dec 2024 #20
Obviously, it's a gay anthem... lame54 Dec 2024 #21
"you can do whatever you feel" JCMach1 Dec 2024 #34
A gay bar would be a better cruising spot! LeftInTX Dec 2024 #18
To be honest he sounds homophobic. eShirl Dec 2024 #9
THAT comment caught my attention. electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #24
I noticed that too MustLoveBeagles Dec 2024 #25
He makes money every time it's played Ex Lurker Dec 2024 #16
I what? I stand to get millions of dollars. Well hell No y m c a is not a gay anthem Fullduplexxx Dec 2024 #3
Most annoying song ever GusBob Dec 2024 #4
Gay man here, if you need me to explain the gay part of YMCA, just ask. Duncan Grant Dec 2024 #5
Breaking: "It's Raining Men" songwriter TheProle Dec 2024 #7
It's a religious song, too. Duncan Grant Dec 2024 #12
Here's hoping Victor Willis suffers the same fate as other trump suck-ups. Paladin Dec 2024 #11
Not a gay anthem, but they shot part of the video outside of the Ramrod club, a gay leather bar in the West Village. LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #13
From "The Library of Congress" blog: HAPPY PRIDE! How "Y.M.C.A." Became a Gay Anthem! Wiz Imp Dec 2024 #14
This is hilarious! Oneironaut Dec 2024 #15
he stands to make "several million dollars" skypilot Dec 2024 #19
I guess "It's Raining Men" isn't either tishaLA Dec 2024 #22
I loved when the Pointer sisters did that... stillcool Dec 2024 #30
It was actually the Weather Girls tishaLA Dec 2024 #31
the Pointer sisters did the song... stillcool Dec 2024 #35
That's "I'm So Excited," not tishaLA Dec 2024 #36
oops...okay stillcool Dec 2024 #38
So they did a cover of it then tishaLA Dec 2024 #39
Yes...I thought I was clearer... stillcool Dec 2024 #40
Lessee ... Emrys Dec 2024 #23
Just because some gays have been using it doesn't make it a gay anthem Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #26
With all that makeup and hairspray, Donny tRump is looking FABULOUS!!! Blue Owl Dec 2024 #27
It's a gay anthem. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #28
And in breaking news: jls4561 Dec 2024 #29
Sure, Jan... Mike Nelson Dec 2024 #32
Are the Village people gay or faux gay? keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #33
Artists fall in line kwolf68 Dec 2024 #37
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