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UniqueUserName

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Tue Nov 26, 2024, 02:10 PM Nov 26

There's a faction of DU that seems to delight in pointing and laughing at those of us who believed. . . [View all]

. . .the campaign message that democracy was on the line.

Whenever anyone here expresses confusion over the Democratic leadership messaging post-election, some prolific posters here intimate that those of who believed the campaign are/were hopeless rubes. Also, we have to stop crying and prepare for the next election.

My brother-in-law pointed out that in a conversation, there are often two things that can happen to a participant's psyche. You risk being called/seen a fool or you risk being thought of as an asshole (a person who comes into a conversation not with the intent of exchanging ideas, but intends on using the person, or otherwise making the other person feel stupid).

I don't mind if any of you think I'm a fool. (I don't know you enough to care of your opinion of me.)

I freely admit that I believed the campaign message. Democracy is on the line. It may be our last honestly counted vote. The incoming administration will not only make life difficult for minorities but will probably do heinous acts against minorities to include: internment, deportation --which might include legal immigrants, torture. All social programs are on the line and will probably be scaled back or cut completely. Corporations will be able to pollute at will. ---Well, you get the picture.

They presented actual statements from the opposition to support these positions. Even now, I am not entirely convinced that it was all a con. Some DUers are certainly implying it was a con and that there is no reason to believe that free elections are over. The observations supporting the campaign rhetoric include actual opposition statements, and the choices of who would be key players in the incoming administration (Stephen Miller, aka The Child Seperator, the other guy intent on rounding up migrants, etc.).

My post is one of many that have danced around this. Most other posts have had more focused messages about one or two of the issues. Ultimately, my displeasure is being played by my leaders in the same way a confidence man plays his marks. That is what I haven't heard addressed by the ones pointing and laughing.

If you think that conning people into voting for Democrats via fear was an effective strategy this election, I would beg to differ. You were able to get me to invest more than I would have this time, but what about next? That is what those of us who are confused are saying. Yes, I believed you. Shame on you for lying. No, I won't believe you next time, Shame on me if I'm conned again.

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Will there even be a next election? Lunabell Nov 26 #1
Yup. And their silence now, tells me it's spot on. onecaliberal Nov 26 #2
Well said. sop Nov 26 #3
The most important thing is that no one disparage Garland Orrex Nov 26 #4
It's true, he's working on it very secretly. Think. Again. Nov 26 #10
I just came across a thread you might BootinUp Nov 26 #13
Yeah, I've seen that and others just like it. Orrex Nov 26 #14
Just a couple of quick thoughts BootinUp Nov 26 #16
And the cheerleaders' faith was/is based on nothing but sycophancy. Less than worthless. Orrex Nov 26 #19
That was Biden being forced to defend himself from his own party's criticism! Enuf Cya lol. BootinUp Nov 26 #20
" On the other hand, I have also learned / decided that we are, our own worst enemy." Which is it? Ilikepurple Nov 26 #27
I plainly called for a knowledge based criticism, the only part you ignored. SIGH!! nt BootinUp Nov 26 #29
That's one loud sigh. I just be really thick. Ilikepurple Nov 26 #33
Yes, yes, but about your's and everyone's desire to get closer to the truth BootinUp Nov 26 #34
I wasn't aware the campaign was still going. Ilikepurple Nov 27 #36
Obtuse silliness instead of discussing the Point I was making. Whatever. I'll leave you with this article BootinUp Nov 27 #38
Obtuse? Silliness? "(like in the middle of a campaign)" Ilikepurple Nov 27 #41
Is there? Or, maybe is it just possible BootinUp Nov 26 #5
I firmly believe our democracy is on the line. Solly Mack Nov 26 #6
When the repubs complained about the campaign messaging that spoke to "democracy is on the line" that told me..... EarnestPutz Nov 26 #7
THIS!! 👆 InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 26 #26
Thanks. I'm surprised they didn't "demand an apology". EarnestPutz Nov 27 #42
If I could ask... RussBLib Nov 26 #8
The President has agreed to a peaceful transfer of power while the campaign messaged. . . UniqueUserName Nov 26 #21
There's a faction that delights in pointing and laughing, period Prairie Gates Nov 26 #9
I haven't witnessed what you claim? mzmolly Nov 26 #11
Same here DavidDvorkin Nov 26 #15
I believe that would be against DU TOS UniqueUserName Nov 26 #22
I've not been following the election analysis mzmolly Nov 26 #23
I haven't seen them either. Scrivener7 Nov 26 #28
I for one Scubamatt Nov 26 #12
We lost justice this week and losing our democracy Emile Nov 26 #17
You have to see this over a broader space of time BootinUp Nov 26 #24
This is my belief taxi Nov 26 #18
They'll find out soon enough. Crunchy Frog Nov 26 #25
I believed it, and I still believe it. I just wonder how many of those in Congress, or even in the Biden Administration lees1975 Nov 26 #30
The Republicans had the same message, if Democrats won the doc03 Nov 26 #31
It's a moot point. They are going to say that Blue Full Moon Nov 27 #37
Nov 4 'He's a FASCIST that will END DEMOCRACY!!' Nov 6 'well guys we gave it the old college try. Got to smooth the kelly1mm Nov 26 #32
Throughout the course of this campaign and way before then B.See Nov 27 #35
k and r Cirsium Nov 27 #39
Trump is an existential threat to democracy because most Americans, and I mean MOST, don't know what Democracy looks lees1975 Nov 27 #40
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