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In reply to the discussion: The Silent Treatment: A Day in the Life of a Student in ‘No Excuses’ Land [View all]unhappycamper
(60,364 posts)6. Just trying to make good little Germans, er, Merikans.
Don't question, don't ask, just listen.
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HiPointDem
Dec 2012
OP
I agree. But silently marching in lockstep.. Not the best of ideas in education...
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#7
Yeah, I think it's a sad day when teaching kids self-discipline feels "fascist"
Recursion
Dec 2012
#12
It's the whole set up. Shutting up BEFORE getting on the bus. Having a predetermined greeting for
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#19
It's THE MAN, man! They're trying to keep these kids down! Make them conform, man!
Recursion
Dec 2012
#26
Poor dirty hippie kids! You have to pound some sense into them, or they won't march in lock step
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#29
"unless they have the floor". children at this school do not get to "have the floor". i doubt
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#16
Well, yes they do. They are asked questions by the teacher. That gives them the floor. They can also
Recursion
Dec 2012
#22
Irrelevant. The kids at sidwell friends aren't schooled like the students in the OP. Not at all.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#36
KINDERGARTNERS should have the opportunity for free-form answers calling for independent thought
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#87
Programming elementary school students into being little robots would be horrifying
Recursion
Dec 2012
#88
That is what is happening here. The students are expected to give scripted replies
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#92
is this your proposal or something? how do you know about classes they haven't described?
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#97
that school is not *this* school, & i'm quite aware of kipp, another prison school chain for black
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#99
Students respond with an enthusiastic, “Yes, I’m ready to learn today. I can’t wait to learn somethi
Recursion
Dec 2012
#2
Let's ask bill gates if his kids are schooled like this. or eli broad's children.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#11
His kids go to an undisclosed private school, so I have no idea what their discipline system is
Recursion
Dec 2012
#21
How does learning to be quiet and still help concentration? You're joking, right?
Recursion
Dec 2012
#15
You can learn to control your physical motions and sounds without making a 24/7 routine out of it.
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#18
Did you even read the article? They aren't even silent all of the school day, let alone 24/7
Recursion
Dec 2012
#20
Glad to see that you would agree that extending these rules to recess would be over the top.
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#35
you don't know what the hell they do at recess because the article doesn't mention recess.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#45
You must not have read the same article as me, also, it's not just about the silence, but just as
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#74
They talk at lunch if a staff member allows them to move to 'level 2' as a reward for being
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#40
BTW I didn't know Foxconn was starting manufacturing training in America yet. nt
Pholus
Dec 2012
#37
It's fairly common for charters. Especially charters for the poor and black.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#41
lol. that's a model. it's a hypothetical kid in a school that is in the proposal stage.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#76
that girl exists, but she's not a student at this school. because this is a proposal for a charter
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#102
I don't know what to think about this. It goes too far. I wouldn't want a child of mind in that
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#43
Not at all. School wasn't quiet when I was a child. But we were required NOT to speak during class..
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#49
Maybe it was just the school where I went. It's disadvantaged, which was why there were
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#109
I can finally articulate why this is a pathetically stupid idea. It's not the silence...
Pholus
Dec 2012
#50
Yeah, the ones who would make horrendous bosses, execrable co-workers and lying subordinates
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#64
Someone who has been trained only to say what others wish to hear is useless
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#71
Primary school is not and should not be boot camp and children are not slaves
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#75
The amount of degrees between the Socratic Method to a mere Pavlovian response
LanternWaste
Dec 2012
#106
If you'd read the article you'd know these are "would-be" children in a "proposed" new school.
Pholus
Dec 2012
#111
Oh, now I did explicitly state this once but apparently you only hear things I didn't say.
Pholus
Dec 2012
#128
No, I KNOW it isn't necessary. But your educorp doesn't get that it's better if it is spontaneous.
Pholus
Dec 2012
#110
It shows that I never read, but only heard the name in movies, doesn't it?
Democracyinkind
Dec 2012
#133