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former9thward

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17. The emancipation was a military order.

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:09 PM

Dec 2012

The reason it only applied to the areas that were under Confederate control is that Lincoln was issuing the order in his role as Commander in Chief. To make it apply everywhere he would have had to go to Congress and get a law passed. There was no political will to do that. Eventually the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution were passed which applied everywhere but those were after the Civil War was over.

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I still cant get my head around the fact the Lincoln was a Republican and Democrats [View all] srican69 Dec 2012 OP

And a republican started the EPA leftynyc Dec 2012 #1

I just find it totally bewildering ...that's all srican69 Dec 2012 #2

the new deal, after the party of capital had bankrupted the economy. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #11

There was a shift in the 1960s gollygee Dec 2012 #3

Um AlexSatan Dec 2012 #25

And how many of the Democrats thucythucy Dec 2012 #28

No idea AlexSatan Dec 2012 #31

Well, even the figures you cite show thucythucy Dec 2012 #34

I was talking about Kennedy and Johnson gollygee Dec 2012 #32

The shift started earlier than that. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #26

The Democrats became Dixiecrats, and then Republicans. EOTE Dec 2012 #4

read a history of the democratic party cali Dec 2012 #5

I know the history ... but I still find it pretty funny given where we are. srican69 Dec 2012 #6

The Democrats' early history is checkered at best. Arkana Dec 2012 #15

What I find wierd is the switching of poles .. certain core values is what define a party ... srican69 Dec 2012 #7

The usual way. Extended exposure to money and power. N/t JHB Dec 2012 #27

FDR was originally a Republican, but switched when he ran for state office. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #8

"Republicanism" used to be associated with the moneyed class SoCalDem Dec 2012 #13

A lot can change in 150 years. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #9

not that simple SoCalDem Dec 2012 #10

It took over 150 years for it to happen. Arkana Dec 2012 #12

FDR (D) opposed anti-lynching laws. LiberalAndProud Dec 2012 #14

Freeing the slaves was a political gambit JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #16

The emancipation was a military order. former9thward Dec 2012 #17

Between Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and Johnson's signing of the Voting Rights Act 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #18

The Federalists and the Republicans became the Whigs and the Democrats. FarCenter Dec 2012 #19

Look at the 1936 vs 2012 presidential election maps LeftInTX Dec 2012 #20

The "Solid South" was solidly white Democrats -- blacks, if they voted, voted Republican FarCenter Dec 2012 #21

They are just labels. I see it many times here. upaloopa Dec 2012 #22

I can't get over today's GOP turning into the Know-Nothings pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #23

100 years from now... Xolodno Dec 2012 #24

The Republicans have always been about big business LeftInTX Dec 2012 #29

oh H2O Man Dec 2012 #30

the Republicans were the progressive party brokechris Dec 2012 #33

Not so much anti-war as anti-foreign entanglement (read 'isolationist'...) Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #36

The Democratic Party had an albatross around its neck : LeftinOH Dec 2012 #35

I remember when they were the pariahs of US politics LeftInTX Dec 2012 #37

The Great Depression happened and FDR came in to save the day. And families like mine ended up jwirr Dec 2012 #38

Take a few history classes ... then it will make more sense. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #39

Political Parties Often Change Philosophies louis c Dec 2012 #40

Where to begin.... Bucky Dec 2012 #43

I welcome your very articulate response louis c Dec 2012 #45

Yeah, weird, cause, like all that changed happened, like, overnight and stuff. Bucky Dec 2012 #41

Presidental elections 1948-60 SpartanDem Dec 2012 #42

Interesting to note how smoothly Adlai Stevenson accommodated the Jim Crow crowd. Bucky Dec 2012 #44