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In reply to the discussion: Alarms Go Off as Obama Plays Footsie with Raising Medicare Age [View all]Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)67. If you have confidence in the man, why aren't you taking him at his word?
In situations where you take the time to respond, you simply look like someone who's suffering from cognitive dissonance. Your attempt to explain away his language as a trial balloon is equally reaching: A president, his sr. advisor, et al. don't float trial balloons on TV, they do it to reporters on background.
This is where your model falls down. At some point, if you have confidence in the man, you have to take him at his word.
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Everything I have heard, including Congressional Democrats they will NOT raise the age of Medicare.
still_one
Dec 2012
#1
I am sure there will be a long list of excuses when SS & Medicare get cut, too
Doctor_J
Dec 2012
#20
He's already said that while he's willling to look for savings and efficiencies in
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#105
When the age doesn't go up they will do what they've done for the last 4 years...silence
uponit7771
Dec 2012
#29
No, we will credit the huge coalition formed before the election of Unions and Progressive
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#103
Ranting on DU has no merit unless they are part of the huge coalition of Progressive Orgs and
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#160
Ah...the half truth postings are back...., these get ignored by non fudr crowed
uponit7771
Dec 2012
#28
All Obama has to do is say "We will not raise the eligibility age. That is not negotiable."
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#36
It is impossible to overemphasize the wrongness of what you just said.
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#74
Yeah, but you are doing the woo woo thing, as in non-rational, biased & baseless speculation.
patrice
Dec 2012
#128
Anyone who respects rationalism admits the possibility of error, UNLIKE the anti-Obama woo woo going
patrice
Dec 2012
#145
The only ones reinforcing are YOU. And the reason you are reinforcing it is because
patrice
Dec 2012
#120
You're the ones taking an extremely limited & VERY selective set of information & PROPAGANDIZING
patrice
Dec 2012
#121
It's impossible to overemphasize the wrongness of your methodology = REALLY suspicious
patrice
Dec 2012
#122
Who made you the police of this board? Are you a fascist? Do all of us have to do things your way?
patrice
Dec 2012
#138
Ridicule, the first resort of the impotent. & I'm not even sure that it can be said that I drink,
patrice
Dec 2012
#146
Exactly correct: the Common Dreams Pseudo-Progressives have as high an opinion of themselves
alcibiades_mystery
Dec 2012
#82
They're all buzzzzzzzed on themselves & what they MISTAKE for power = FASCISM. & that's
patrice
Dec 2012
#123
And if it weren't this issue, it'd be another, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT SOLIDARITY. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#125
They're beside themselves with rage that they didn't get their "I Told You So" moment
alcibiades_mystery
Dec 2012
#84
That's precisely what's going on & they'll NEVER admit that they don't KNOW enough to arrive at
patrice
Dec 2012
#118
Maybe he's just talking. If he were serious, it could kill the Democratic Party.
Poll_Blind
Dec 2012
#7
Is it even remotely possible for DU posters not to panic with every single Presidential utterance?
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#9
Come on. Do you really think he doesn't know how the vast majority of the Democratic Party and....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#18
Congress needs to pass legislation legalizing pot, and submit that bill to the President....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#151
Exactly right. And there is the possibility he is intentionally playing "good cop, bad cop"
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#66
& every last one of them is a fuck-you to Solidarity -AND- that could very well be the REAL motive.
patrice
Dec 2012
#150
It's fucking sad that Democrats have to BEG a Democratic president to protect Social Security
jsr
Dec 2012
#23
Mr. President is not going to be down with that. People wadding their panties for not.
lonestarnot
Dec 2012
#30
You can use an effeminizing pejorative to describe legitimate concern but two things:
Poll_Blind
Dec 2012
#35
Mr. President is not so stupid as to piss off folks, contribute further to debt, and agree with
lonestarnot
Dec 2012
#56
Thank you. So here's the problem with your position: Both President Obama's senior advisor and...
Poll_Blind
Dec 2012
#61
I have more confidence in the man than you apparently. Language was a float.
lonestarnot
Dec 2012
#62
It will depend on whether he gives in to the "serious" people or the people who elected him.
mmonk
Dec 2012
#57
But from what I understand that is one of the largest costs to the Medicare program
former-republican
Dec 2012
#73
The negotiation ban goes against the free market, free enterprise and all that jazz
jsr
Dec 2012
#91
Really? Most DUers I know are currently members of several Progressive Organizations and are
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#144
THAT's what he's working on, but there's some people around here too short/narrow sighted,
patrice
Dec 2012
#114
The GOP didn't mind jacking up the debt and now they want to rip off the elderly and needy.
L0oniX
Dec 2012
#161
"When you look at the evidence, it’s not clear that it actually saves a lot of money."
patrice
Dec 2012
#113
I want the anti-Obama bigots in this thread to explain the last paragraph of OP to us, please&thanks
patrice
Dec 2012
#127
"not clear that it - INCREASING MEDICARE AGE - saves a lot of money" Republicans want A LOT of
patrice
Dec 2012
#130
I'll wait to see what actually happens, since neither the cheerleaders not the naysayers actually
djean111
Dec 2012
#143
Exactly. They are our very own "teabaggers". I'm hoping the economy improves to the point where...
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#159
TL/DR - long winded line of "there are some who say" and "he hasn't said he wouldn't" BS
tjwash
Dec 2012
#132