This is starting to piss me off!

[1StrongBlackMan]

9. And ...

how did the public come to a realization that the other side was so bad? It's not like the gop has changed much. They have always had their nuts and nutty issues.

Too many people know the facts now. It's not like it was six years ago.

I disagree ... the vast majority of people don't know or care about the facts; they only want DC to get something done to alleviate their pain. And when they see one side saying, "Everything is on the table, including cuts to SS and Medicare" (which, BTW, doesn't mean you won't reject even the discussion of touching SS or Medicare while at the bargaining table) and they see the other side saying, "You must cut spending or we'll crash the economy"; the vast majority of people side (sided) with the more concilitory figure.

If they raise the age for Medicare, I believe there will be a major political shift in this country. That is the 'red line' for the usually dependable liveral and left leaning independent vote, and this time people prepared for it.

Uh huh ... and prepare of 2010 revisited.

This is not to say I support any "reform" that negatively impacts beneficiaries ... I don't; nor do I think President Obama does either.