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yardwork

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13. Meh. I think it's a form of elitism to assume people are infants.

Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:26 AM

Nov 2024

Just because more than half the voters just proved themselves to be babies who prefer an entertaining, incoherent fantasy over boring facts and plans, doesn't mean I'm going to run back to cosplaying the dreary blaming of Democrats, a cultural ritual in the living rooms of academic elites.

Kamala Harris ran an excellent campaign, focused on helping people. Trump ran an incoherent campaign filled with lies and insane promises. "Only I can fix it."

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Hate to say this but this is the second time labor has dropped the ball. [View all] JohnSJ Nov 2024 OP

Remember Trump promised VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #1

+++ JohnSJ Nov 2024 #2

I don't see how this makes much difference JI7 Nov 2024 #6

Exactly, but people bought into it VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #27

taxes Homoudont Nov 2024 #24

Tariffs! VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #25

Yeah, that's not going to happen Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #26

Well he certainly can't do it without Congress VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #29

A more accurate and productive framing would be that it is the second time that the Democratic leadership Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #3

Nonsense. Let's see how they get along with union busting Trump, musk. and JohnSJ Nov 2024 #4

Not the point - and actually that level of arrogance in taking it for granted that labor will vote Democratic, Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #10

Black women are the ones that vote democratic in highest numbers and then other various JI7 Nov 2024 #7

I never said it was the only issue. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #9

What should Kamala have done? nt Phoenix61 Nov 2024 #12

I've addressed it numerous times, Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #39

Meh. I think it's a form of elitism to assume people are infants. yardwork Nov 2024 #13

We had the audacity to tell people they aren't experiencing what they're experiencing Sympthsical Nov 2024 #14

+1. Many people value food and housing over democracy. dalton99a Nov 2024 #15

Well atreides1 Nov 2024 #30

I'm not arguing the causes. I'm discussing the response to them. Sympthsical Nov 2024 #37

I respectfully disagree. I think they messaged to labor A LOT Coexist Nov 2024 #38

Unions didnt help us much. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #5

According to exit polls they split the vote, along with Latinos who also split the vote, and the JohnSJ Nov 2024 #8

I hate to say this Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #11

How did they drop the ball? Harris won union households at a rate similar to Biden's in 2020. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #16

The vote was split. Harris held onto union households, but by only a 10-point margin (54-44) compared to Biden's 16 JohnSJ Nov 2024 #20

It's always split, no cohort is a monolith. According to those NR numbers, the bleed was similar to Democrats as a WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #21

Every vote counted Whiskey as I am sure you agree, but the differences this time around should have been much greater JohnSJ Nov 2024 #22

As with most cohorts, including much, much larger ones. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #23

Blaming labor, wow. Emile Nov 2024 #17

They were a contributing factor when they split their vote between Harris and trump. They were a major factor when they JohnSJ Nov 2024 #18

You think finger pointing will bring them back? Emile Nov 2024 #19

Didn't unions and labor not endorse because of internal poll kerouac2 Nov 2024 #28

we need to figure that out RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #31

Change our message to what? The messaging wasn't the problem. That is what we stand for. I am afraid the problem JohnSJ Nov 2024 #34

Prevailing wage Nigrum Cattus Nov 2024 #32

Nice post Tickle Nov 2024 #33

trump is not a friend of labor or workers LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #35

no kidding JohnSJ Nov 2024 #36