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In reply to the discussion: Any time you hear the word "privatization", you should be scared [View all]Squinch
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From today's Thom Hartmann radio show: "Is public education going the way of public housing?"
alp227
Dec 2012
#132
There have been many studies showing public services can be provided more effectively and
jody
Dec 2012
#2
there have been many more studies showing the opposite. and there is the evidence of our own
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#5
Please cite a study supporting your assertion re "military contracting systems being exhibit A." nt
jody
Dec 2012
#9
Thanks. This thread is about service contracts. There were perhaps a dozen Poor Contract
jody
Dec 2012
#151
The privatization of military services has been a failure in terms of cost and quality.
Overseas
Dec 2012
#152
Are you familiar with performance based service contracts used by the federal government? The name
jody
Dec 2012
#15
Education is neither a product nor a service, but is properly termed a social imperative.
Occulus
Dec 2012
#57
Sorry but in terms of contracts the accepted terms are either product or service. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#71
Yes but can you cite studies that prove the cat doesn't like to be belled? And if you can, then
Squinch
Dec 2012
#127
Carter was a neo-liberal. This was widely known. His failed policies led to the election of Reagan.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#11
I've read several state's laws for charter schools. IMO it's up to the state to declare what a
jody
Dec 2012
#17
Then you oppose the Presidents policies to contract out services under Circular A-76.
jody
Dec 2012
#22
Are you unable to say you oppose Obama's policies under A-76? A simple yes or no is easy. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#26
Defense contractors have no-bid, cost-plus contracts to supply meals, security, other
duhneece
Dec 2012
#32
Agree but contracts for services at permanent bases do not have those problems. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#62
You and several million other people can claim they wrote grants. You do know that grants have
jody
Dec 2012
#97
I never said A-76 is a panacea. I pointed out it's a president's policy for "privatization" that the
jody
Dec 2012
#101
I appears as if you are suggesting that anyone who opposes A-76, opposes Obama
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#115
I believe Obama wants to revise A-76 has have previous presidents. He's also being pressured by the
jody
Dec 2012
#119
From my experience the problem is not the policies in A-76 nor the FAR & DAR. It's the people who
jody
Dec 2012
#129
While it may be true the OMB circulars are technically presidents' policies...
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#55
Sorry but you are wrong. There are thousands of service contracts that function very effectively and
jody
Dec 2012
#67
Then you oppose presidents' policies under A-76? See other posts in this thread for the circular. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#28
Fact is, after decades of privatization favored more by Republicans than Democrats,
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#34
You need to study the issue more thoroughly before you reject contracting out. The issue is much to
jody
Dec 2012
#64
I've also read lots of history. Does the Democratic Party Platform oppose "privatizers" if they as a
jody
Dec 2012
#87
Not if we have the very corporations that profit from these contracts are running our
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#109
You're not going to get an answer if the earlier part of this discussion is any indicator.
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#59
Go to any military base and the odds are its morale, recreation, and welfare units are operated by
jody
Dec 2012
#66
Federal contracts for services are supposed to meet acquisition regulations that focus on
jody
Dec 2012
#92
OK but neither your experience nor mine has anything to do with the issue under discussion. Why did
jody
Dec 2012
#94
How does a Navy father and F-14 pilot give you even the most rudimentary knowledge of the FAR & DAR?
jody
Dec 2012
#106
You really have gotten in over your head haven't you because you don't know about FAR & DAR. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#110
No, there aren't. What there is, is an often repeated lie that pubic services are provided more
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#135
I did not say the presidential policy at the link proved anything. I said "One obvious set of
jody
Dec 2012
#139
The proposition that private is better than public is still a lie. And you are the one that is
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#143
Only someone who is uninformed on the issue would allege a "lie". Have a great day and goodbye. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#144
+100. I don't think the public always appreciates how much of the 'bad' is mandated from above.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#3
some don't see it because they're not informed enough, having just heard the propaganda about
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#7
that's just a subset of lack of information. most people have no idea what anyone who represents
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#61
A-76 is no more theory than any other statement of policy published by the executive branch. The
jody
Dec 2012
#89
Agree and policies like A-76 have evolved over decades under Democrats and Republican presidents.
jody
Dec 2012
#108
Re subject question, answer "no". The OP made a blanket condemnation of privatization and IMO that's
jody
Dec 2012
#114
I stated USPS Express Mail goes via FedEx. That's privatization pure and simple. I understand the
jody
Dec 2012
#118
+ 1,000. Profit adds a layer of cost where there should be none in health, education and utilities.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#43
Another point: at least theoretically, the gov. is more directly answerable to voters.
snot
Dec 2012
#53
Thanks to Arne Duncan, the Sec of Ed, there are those who are now harvesting public assets.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#8
You know when I was a little girl and my daddy was in the military we lived on base.
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#45
Excellent info, southernyahkeebelle. That's just another way we shortchange our troops nowadays :(
We People
Dec 2012
#117
The true distruction started under Reagan. He started with the union breakdown then letting
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#121
If there were a way to hook us up to masks and meter the air we took in and let out each day
gollygee
Dec 2012
#126
yes be scared, they did it with the private prisons. The contracts broke states of their tax money.
Sunlei
Dec 2012
#58
You've got it right despite some anti-government services cheerleaders here.
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#78
That's exactly what's happening in my school district. We're in fiscal caution now...
truth2power
Dec 2012
#105
We need serious media blitz on the privatization steamroller that the one percent are driving
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#134
And another kick for this post - Privatization being slightly more important than an
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#137
K & R - An excellent outline of privatization that should be memorized by everyone.
Raksha
Dec 2012
#149