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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
188. Risk assessment
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:21 PM
Dec 2012

As a former competetive skydiver, I tend not to be as judgemental as others about risk assessment. And I certainly don't see myself as a prophet on any topic, certainly not enough to become "evangelical" about the whole thing. Ambulances are already "private", so are the EMT's inside of them. I'm not sure what private roads have to do with seat belts because by the time the seat belt is being used, the crash is already occuring.

I put my seat belt on every time I get into a vehicle. Terra Alta Dec 2012 #1
good mac56 Dec 2012 #3
we had a wreck up here yesterday I believe and two dies, one injured. roguevalley Dec 2012 #131
Local paramedic friend of mine said she has never unbuckled a dead body n/t kracer20 Dec 2012 #215
Sister on the show Rosanne said this to her nieces. kiva Dec 2012 #292
My cousin was killed last Thursday "wasn't wearing a seat belt." SharonAnn Dec 2012 #305
sorry about your cousin. Terra Alta Dec 2012 #310
That's terrible. I am so sorry. mac56 Dec 2012 #311
I take it a step further nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2
Word to the herd. mac56 Dec 2012 #4
In many areas it is the responsibility of the driver to make sure all in the car are belted teddy51 Dec 2012 #10
I endorse that. mac56 Dec 2012 #12
Can we make this national? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #98
I can get behind that. mac56 Dec 2012 #100
There are still states where that isn't the law? Bet they're the 'pro-life' states, too. freshwest Dec 2012 #193
Unless the law has changed since I left Georgia 3 years ago Raine1967 Dec 2012 #206
I can understand that with a farm truck, low speed, in the field, getting in and out... freshwest Dec 2012 #218
"I don't need no brain-bucket! I got brains to spare!" mac56 Dec 2012 #300
Hehehe. Yep, sometimes all you can do is just say 'Meh.' freshwest Dec 2012 #301
I do that too Skittles Dec 2012 #66
amen, Skittles mac56 Dec 2012 #71
Yep, and cell phones Aerows Dec 2012 #242
Same here. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2012 #103
right on CC mac56 Dec 2012 #104
as the survivor of a head-on collision shanti Dec 2012 #5
No, it didn't. mac56 Dec 2012 #8
Glad your ok, and an excellent post. No excuse in this day and age for not wearing a seat teddy51 Dec 2012 #6
Thanks. mac56 Dec 2012 #9
glad you are here to post this message--, and, as nadin said, good luck with the insurance co. niyad Dec 2012 #7
Appreciated. mac56 Dec 2012 #11
Gota be honest...sometimes it takes the , ding,ding,ding as back i down the driveway... pkdu Dec 2012 #13
Minnesota mac56 Dec 2012 #16
Did your accident happen after the snow started? dflprincess Dec 2012 #32
Amazingly, no. mac56 Dec 2012 #35
It seems those trucks are the least able to stop and the most likely AllyCat Dec 2012 #178
So Cal here...you can understand my total cognitive dissonance about waking up with Palm Trees and pkdu Dec 2012 #41
Indeed. mac56 Dec 2012 #53
I always do. FruitHoops Dec 2012 #14
Don't stop. mac56 Dec 2012 #18
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #19
Welcome to DU, FruitHoops! n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #119
Yikes! RiffRandell Dec 2012 #15
good! mac56 Dec 2012 #21
PLEASE Listen to this OP...This is very important and don't talk.... Tikki Dec 2012 #17
Yeah, I agree. mac56 Dec 2012 #23
Texting and driving The Wizard Dec 2012 #97
You said it. mac56 Dec 2012 #101
Yep. People talking on the Cell Phone while driving are a hazzard! bvar22 Dec 2012 #213
Are you one of those people who believes yourself to be uniquely abled? Superman? Care Acutely Dec 2012 #231
No. I'm one of those people with a sense of humor, bvar22 Dec 2012 #239
Good thing your laptop didn't slide off the steering wheel shelf Fumesucker Dec 2012 #289
I ALWAYS wear mine, and so do my passengers! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #20
Thank you, my dear California Peggy! mac56 Dec 2012 #22
I always do, and I make any passengers buckle up too. MiniMe Dec 2012 #24
Thanks. mac56 Dec 2012 #25
Count me as another who always wears a seat belt SheilaT Dec 2012 #26
No excuse at all. mac56 Dec 2012 #28
My garage does not have a door opener dflprincess Dec 2012 #27
A wise fellow DFL'er! mac56 Dec 2012 #31
I got window-shield in my face Confusious Dec 2012 #29
Ouch. Hope that never happens again. mac56 Dec 2012 #33
Glad you are still here to share that excellent message! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #30
Oh man, you said it all right there. mac56 Dec 2012 #34
*hugs* GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #38
I am so glad you are still with us. Ilsa Dec 2012 #36
I've been told that and never really believed it till now. mac56 Dec 2012 #37
Excellent advice! wendylaroux Dec 2012 #39
So true. mac56 Dec 2012 #52
One more point. A non seatbelt wearing person can be thrown around the car pnwmom Dec 2012 #40
Another good reason. mac56 Dec 2012 #54
Was going to make this exact point! lupinella Dec 2012 #108
Seatbelts have saved our family a lot of pain.j s-cubed Dec 2012 #42
Did they taste good? ErikJ Dec 2012 #45
That's what I was wondering. pnwmom Dec 2012 #82
This is why I don't understand not wearing one every time. mac56 Dec 2012 #56
I have had occasion to ride in other people's vehicles that were not equipped with them. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #95
yup mac56 Dec 2012 #99
5 pt belts Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #217
I think it should certainly be an option for the driver at least. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #222
What about just in the neighborhood? ErikJ Dec 2012 #43
Every time, Erik. mac56 Dec 2012 #55
You don't have to be going very fast skepticscott Dec 2012 #185
They used to tour to high schools around here with "The Convincer" forgotmylogin Dec 2012 #245
I cracked a windshield with my head when my sister Butterbean Dec 2012 #288
Thankful that you are able to post... CherokeeDem Dec 2012 #44
Would that more did what you do. mac56 Dec 2012 #58
Glad you are ok. MissB Dec 2012 #46
Glad you and he made it. mac56 Dec 2012 #60
Isn't it funny how times change? Blanks Dec 2012 #165
In my company, if you move a company vehicle without . . . MrModerate Dec 2012 #47
You are in good company, literally. mac56 Dec 2012 #62
Yessir, a message worth repeating. 99Forever Dec 2012 #48
Thanks, 99. mac56 Dec 2012 #64
Fucken A right. Iggo Dec 2012 #49
word mac56 Dec 2012 #65
I had to train my MIL, but I don't go anyplace if passengers aren't belted Hekate Dec 2012 #50
Thanks. mac56 Dec 2012 #67
Gee I wonder LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #201
By this time we're pretty sure our former SIL is a complete narcissistic ass Hekate Dec 2012 #225
You do not rule by decree. There are fines for not wearing such and if people are willing to accept RB TexLa Dec 2012 #51
Okay. mac56 Dec 2012 #68
Just know that whether I rule by decree or not, any friend of mine who does not buckle up mac56 Dec 2012 #78
Wow wendylaroux Dec 2012 #110
Well you refuse to wear it in my car nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #124
My car, my rules WolverineDG Dec 2012 #146
And like clockwork.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #174
so when exactly hfojvt Dec 2012 #296
HE'S NOT THE BOSS OF YOU Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #200
Once upon a time in my primordial life I was a volunteer fireman... Javaman Dec 2012 #202
I had a friend who was an occupational therapist... Hekate Dec 2012 #227
Well, here's the real-world situation. colorado_ufo Dec 2012 #205
Question Re: Obamacare and pre-existing conditions... Mel Content Dec 2012 #233
here's another real life situation hfojvt Dec 2012 #295
ROFL Tsiyu Dec 2012 #235
You're always reliable - GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #244
I have done many stupid and risky things (and continue to do so), but I always buckle up Tom Ripley Dec 2012 #57
right on mac56 Dec 2012 #69
I feel naked if I don't have it on. neverforget Dec 2012 #59
That right there is my goal for everyone I know. mac56 Dec 2012 #70
And if a passenger refuses to put their seatbelt on, I wait until they put neverforget Dec 2012 #106
I've driven naked but still put it on TrogL Dec 2012 #117
Lol good for you! neverforget Dec 2012 #291
mac56, I m glad that you are still here with us. Tom Ripley Dec 2012 #61
Thanks, Tom. mac56 Dec 2012 #72
I always wear my seatbeat and so does everyone else in my vehicles... Playinghardball Dec 2012 #63
Glad it's required there. mac56 Dec 2012 #74
I won't drive if anyone is unrestrained Danmel Dec 2012 #73
Thanks, Danmel mac56 Dec 2012 #75
Same here. Lisa0825 Dec 2012 #77
Thank god you are okay, Lisa. mac56 Dec 2012 #79
The school bus thing drove me crazy. The district's excuse? pnwmom Dec 2012 #125
Kids in most buses are screwed no matter what. Xithras Dec 2012 #221
Hey! It's a free country!! Nobody in the movies wears the damn things 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #76
My dad always told me, lessons cost money! mac56 Dec 2012 #81
Yes, it helps to think of it that way. 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #132
cars should not start unless the belts are buckled, for all the arrogant dumbfucks out there spanone Dec 2012 #80
I would add, buckled AROUND A PERSON. mac56 Dec 2012 #84
My first new car was a Ford Pinto LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #83
Glad of the snow in your case, LF. mac56 Dec 2012 #86
Yes! It should be mandatory for all cars to have LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #189
Do you remember how we got seatbeelts in all our cars? ReRe Dec 2012 #85
Thanks, ReRe. mac56 Dec 2012 #88
Nader and Volvo. longship Dec 2012 #135
Cool... ReRe Dec 2012 #136
Yup! 17 years old. longship Dec 2012 #181
Ralph Nader. That's why the animosity towards him on this site truth2power Dec 2012 #168
I know what you mean... ReRe Dec 2012 #187
Way back when... shoreline Dec 2012 #87
oh man, word to the herd mac56 Dec 2012 #89
No Incitatus Dec 2012 #90
Right on mac56 Dec 2012 #92
+100 840high Dec 2012 #173
I wear my seat belt 600 miles everyday. I B Calm Dec 2012 #91
Yeah! mac56 Dec 2012 #94
I'm glad you're ok. And yes, I always wear my seat belt. richmwill Dec 2012 #93
If the fine works, it's fine with me. mac56 Dec 2012 #96
I always say it's a person's choice JoeyT Dec 2012 #102
You're more lenient than I am, Joey. mac56 Dec 2012 #105
I don't want to be paying their medical bills TrogL Dec 2012 #120
Glad you're OK. I wouldn't think of not wearing mine-- TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #107
Please feel free to try to kick my ass. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #109
by all means, do whatever you want shireen Dec 2012 #116
And the rest if us get to pay your medical bills TrogL Dec 2012 #121
Seems a bit harsh... catnhatnh Dec 2012 #143
I won't point out all the false equivalencies in your post. Don't have the time. mac56 Dec 2012 #150
Is physics also a personal choice? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #176
Darwin was right. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #211
Shall we nominate you for a Darwin Award? GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #247
Buckle up for safety, buckle up! Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #111
I've made a 100% improvement EileenFB Dec 2012 #112
And there's an unexpected side benefit... Buns_of_Fire Dec 2012 #113
As others have stated, I also feel "naked" without it. kentauros Dec 2012 #114
I always use my seat belt. Lugnut Dec 2012 #115
I got a ticket for this last year. wercal Dec 2012 #118
Hey! Welcome to DU qanda Dec 2012 #128
Not to mention bicycle and motorcycle helmets. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #122
right on, Jim mac56 Dec 2012 #157
In my husband's small high school, three kids died in 4 years Zoeisright Dec 2012 #123
Oh boy!! I just *LOVE* some internet tough guy talk! Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #126
I'm so glad that I'm still around to read your snark mac56 Dec 2012 #151
I'm glad you're still around too..... I guess during my snark overdose I forgot to mention that fact Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #204
You're The One Spewing The Internet Tough Guy Talk. Paladin Dec 2012 #156
There's always at least one. mac56 Dec 2012 #159
Please show me where, exactly, that I'm threatening to kick other DU'ers' asses "into next week" Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #210
I still remember the campaign we did back at DOT back in the 80s qanda Dec 2012 #127
My thing is stopping people from working under a car.... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #129
deal mac56 Dec 2012 #152
Here's a British PSI for you... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #312
Your Triumph RobinA Dec 2012 #195
No, in '71 it wasn't required. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #226
While i probably should Riftaxe Dec 2012 #130
My Brother's story Not a Fan Dec 2012 #133
My father's story Not a Fan Dec 2012 #134
Cannot believe it's not the law to wear a seat belt. corksean Dec 2012 #137
This cannot be said enough. aandegoons Dec 2012 #138
I had a housemate die because he refused to wear a seatbelt. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #139
Speaking as an EMT . . . WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT OldRedneck Dec 2012 #140
That's how it is around here, too. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #155
I'm the one waiting for the EMT in the ER irisblue Dec 2012 #170
Another member of the 'still here because of seatbelts' club here.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #141
Damn right. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #142
"I do not want to spend the rest of my life picking your teeth out of my skull" babydollhead Dec 2012 #144
My car NEVER moves until everyone is belted in. unhappycamper Dec 2012 #145
PLEASE....read these incredible statistics......PLEASE.... Stuart G Dec 2012 #147
I'm Not Against Seatbelts RobinA Dec 2012 #199
You know that isn't a good comparison. LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #208
I used to be lackadaisical about seat belts WolverineDG Dec 2012 #148
It's habitually ingrained into my psyche. Thanks to mandatory seat-belt laws. joshcryer Dec 2012 #149
I wore my seatbelt every time I was in the car. However. . . Nanjing to Seoul Dec 2012 #153
I'm with you to a point. mac56 Dec 2012 #154
I don't feel right without them. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #158
When I was 5 I fell out of a moving car because I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. tridim Dec 2012 #160
Amen to that ybbor Dec 2012 #161
I have a big jagged "Frankenstein"-like scar across my forehead.. LeftinOH Dec 2012 #162
Not as preachy as you zipplewrath Dec 2012 #163
I'm still here, so I plan to preach it. mac56 Dec 2012 #164
Risk assessment zipplewrath Dec 2012 #188
I'm not a skydiver so have no point of reference here. mac56 Dec 2012 #191
I don't think so zipplewrath Dec 2012 #196
Everybody I've Ever Known RobinA Dec 2012 #203
Yeah, trade off at best zipplewrath Dec 2012 #214
WOW! Glad you are OK! mecherosegarden Dec 2012 #166
Make it click! hamsterjill Dec 2012 #167
click it or ticket shanti Dec 2012 #183
In Texas, too. hamsterjill Dec 2012 #197
Absolutely - Seat belts have saved me from death and serious injury rox63 Dec 2012 #169
Glad to be of some small service, rox mac56 Dec 2012 #179
It's a rule in my car 1gobluedem Dec 2012 #171
I was just thinking the other day how ODD it would feel now to drive (or ride in) a car beac Dec 2012 #172
I've never had my life saved because I was wearing a belt. Blanks Dec 2012 #175
oh man, you said it all mac56 Dec 2012 #177
Amen krispos42 Dec 2012 #180
Very glad you're okay. So what was the deal with the clown who rammed into you -cell phone, texting, kath Dec 2012 #182
Haven't been told much about him. mac56 Dec 2012 #186
Long ago, I began to buckle my seat belt before putting the key in the ignition. Still do. sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #184
I heaven05 Dec 2012 #190
Never say "no" to an enraged Scotsman... Taverner Dec 2012 #192
The first thing I do is put on my seat belt. Second is to take it off and get my keys out of my pock rhett o rick Dec 2012 #194
I thank the seat belt for me being here nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #198
Many years ago, a few weeks after Colorado passed it's first seat belt law, CrispyQ Dec 2012 #207
I still run into idiots who think seat belts are dangerous. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #209
Same here, mac... kimmylavin Dec 2012 #212
I fasten my seat belt. I hate it, but I do it. So why do states still allow motorcyclists to ride Bake Dec 2012 #216
The Halloween storm of 91 in MN ...seat belts saved me nadine_mn Dec 2012 #219
Wow! Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #220
Seatbelts minimize damage even in nonfatal collisions. forgotmylogin Dec 2012 #223
Buckle Up Idiots TForbster Dec 2012 #224
Princess Diana Clouseau2 Dec 2012 #228
I won't put the whatever I'm driving in gear until the seat belts are fastened. In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #229
I'm Pro-Choice. It should be left up to the driver and each passenger. Mel Content Dec 2012 #230
The other adults need to consent also. forgotmylogin Dec 2012 #240
or- they can choose not to ride with the unbelted. Mel Content Dec 2012 #270
Obviously you've never lived in a rural area mac56 Dec 2012 #271
most people don't. Mel Content Dec 2012 #272
"Most people don't" = some people do. mac56 Dec 2012 #273
If you're going to be Pro-choice- you have to respect people's choices. Mel Content Dec 2012 #274
No offense, but I've been pro-choice for 40 years. mac56 Dec 2012 #275
people can choose whether to ride, or whether to ride in the back... Mel Content Dec 2012 #277
So in your dictionary, "pro-choice" means "pro-foolish choices"? mac56 Dec 2012 #281
yep. Mel Content Dec 2012 #285
You are so effective at defending your position. mac56 Dec 2012 #283
I'm defending a person having the choice whether or not to wear a seat belt. Mel Content Dec 2012 #286
K and R geardaddy Dec 2012 #232
Hell yeah! graywarrior Dec 2012 #234
Good advice, for sure angel823 Dec 2012 #236
I'm torn on seatbelts. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #237
Most crashes experienced will be minor. forgotmylogin Dec 2012 #243
Advocating NOT wearing seatbelts? Aerows Dec 2012 #248
Uhhhh....no. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #266
I bothered to read your post Aerows Dec 2012 #268
You shoudl not be torn. It is true that seat belts fail a lot - especially in rollovers - but they Texas Lawyer Dec 2012 #262
We had seat belts in our 1951 Chevy because my mother was a terrible driver. GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #238
Agree with you Aerows Dec 2012 #241
what if your seatbelt cut your arm off and you died from blood loss? underoath Dec 2012 #246
False equivalencies. GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #249
More like Aerows Dec 2012 #251
Indeed. As the expression goes: GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #267
People have survived falling out of airplanes Aerows Dec 2012 #250
well fudge it, im still not gonna wear my seatbelt. underoath Dec 2012 #252
Good for you Aerows Dec 2012 #255
exactly. underoath Dec 2012 #258
And hopefully Aerows Dec 2012 #260
how can I kill someone else by not wearing my seatbelt? underoath Dec 2012 #261
Your comment about going 85 up the expressway Aerows Dec 2012 #263
A crash sufficient to cut an arm off due to interaction with the seatbelt would kill an unbelted Texas Lawyer Dec 2012 #256
Ill still not wear my seatbelt, thanks for your concern. underoath Dec 2012 #253
Helmets can only protect functioning brains; seat belts only protect those smart enough to use them Texas Lawyer Dec 2012 #259
Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #254
Before you put on your seat belt.......... nolabels Dec 2012 #257
"My tires and tubes are doing fine but the air is showing through" pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #265
I saw a wreck happen in front of me once. Don't know what caused it, but pnwest Dec 2012 #264
How wonderful that you survived--that could have been a very bad scene. MADem Dec 2012 #269
I don't think any law that compels you to do something for "your own good" should exist. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #276
Being an unsecured passenger in a moving motor vehicle...? mac56 Dec 2012 #278
Perhaps we can clarify the law, but that is just getting into semantics. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #280
Why don't you start a thread where you advocate for not wearing a seat belt? mac56 Dec 2012 #282
I don't advocate it, I advocate that it should be legal. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #284
"I don't advocate it, I advocate that it should be legal." mac56 Dec 2012 #294
I acknowledge that it is safer to drive with a belt. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #297
Quoting John Stuart Mill: mac56 Dec 2012 #299
Been doing it since I could sit on a regular seat sakabatou Dec 2012 #279
How horrifying! Thank you for this. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #287
I drive for a living as a "Road Salesman". sellitman Dec 2012 #290
First off I am glad you are safe and able to post here. I know I wear my seat belt diabeticman Dec 2012 #293
Too much seatbelt is illegal too, though sir pball Dec 2012 #298
i am glad you MrDiaz Dec 2012 #302
Thanks, but I don't agree with your comparisons. mac56 Dec 2012 #304
here is a post i made on 11/20/12 MrDiaz Dec 2012 #306
Yeah, many of the same opinions as on this thread. mac56 Dec 2012 #308
in april of 1997 I had a car accident. I was not wearing a seatbelt. ejpoeta Dec 2012 #303
wow, that must have been terrifying. Raffi Ella Dec 2012 #307
wow! Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #309
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