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marions ghost

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64. Interesting insight

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:01 AM

Dec 2012

My experience is at college level but I see the results of this pervasive negative attitude against high school teachers & am completely sympathetic to the issues. It is tied to the corporate stranglehold on society. The whole insanely competitive dog-eat-dog environment leads to general insanity.

I don't know why people can't see that this NC law is the "progressive" POV --on the issue of cyber bullying.

What is the worst teacher abuse perpetrated by corporate interests in your opinion?

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Jail time could await North Carolina students who go after teachers online [View all] proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 OP

Make it a criminal offense/misdemeanor?... No. -..__... Dec 2012 #1

Couldn't have put it better myself AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #2

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to sue in such a case? marions ghost Dec 2012 #4

Even if the posting is factual and/or truthful? -..__... Dec 2012 #6

If it is factual marions ghost Dec 2012 #9

what about other public servants or just joe blow. should politicians also be protected loli phabay Dec 2012 #8

Public servants marions ghost Dec 2012 #10

i was saying should other public servants get the same protections and if not why not. loli phabay Dec 2012 #11

Mostly because they generally don't have contact with hordes of kids as part of their jobs, Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #29

And if they're poor? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #13

Yeah... so what? -..__... Dec 2012 #44

Don't you know that it costs serious money marions ghost Dec 2012 #60

Good. Practical jokes kill, like they just did in the UK with the nurse. graham4anything Dec 2012 #3

+1. Words and pranks can ruin lives. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #34

Very proud of this, although I wish it was a heavier criminal charge obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #5

I'm not sure I am glad to see this. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #14

If a student created a fake porn profile for you obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #22

shouldnt the law extend to all people then that juveniles stalk. seems that everyone should have pr loli phabay Dec 2012 #27

People who work with minors deserve certain protections obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #30

Even for students over the age of 18? Occulus Dec 2012 #18

What a pleasant response -- giving me the middle finger obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #21

Students know this is wrong: marions ghost Dec 2012 #7

Then truth should be an absolute defense. strategery blunder Dec 2012 #12

So it's okay to bully teachers online if they are bad teachers? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #15

i think the point was if they are a crap teacher then the students should be able to say that loli phabay Dec 2012 #17

So how does that apply with this new law? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #20

one mans bullying and stalking is another mans truth loli phabay Dec 2012 #24

I guess I am assuming that is defined in this law proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #33

If someone says online "a teacher is crap" marions ghost Dec 2012 #61

There are perfectly competent teachers who are worn down iemitsu Dec 2012 #48

If the students are telling the truth, not as they see it, but actual, factual truth, Occulus Dec 2012 #19

From the OP: proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #23

Are names and employee photos "personal information"? Occulus Dec 2012 #32

Not if they're fake proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #36

"even if true" Occulus Dec 2012 #39

Yes proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #49

Absolutely marions ghost Dec 2012 #62

The problem, from your own post, highlighted for emphasis: strategery blunder Dec 2012 #47

Not being able to post "even true" things online about teachers iemitsu Dec 2012 #50

And you believe such disagreements should be criminally prosecuted? strategery blunder Dec 2012 #58

I certainly don't advocate any teacher mocking a student. iemitsu Dec 2012 #67

That's the problem--the law IS overly vague. strategery blunder Dec 2012 #70

I agree that students and their families iemitsu Dec 2012 #72

You just told me upthread you were against this law obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #26

So you think that means I support a student's right to bully a teacher online? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #31

You have a strange idea of what bullying is. Occulus Dec 2012 #42

Again. From the OP: proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #43

Of course truth can be used to bully someone! tblue37 Dec 2012 #51

sure it is or at least can be dsc Dec 2012 #55

Using truth or lies to harass someone with is generally wrong. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #59

I for one welcome our new pedagogic overlords Fumesucker Dec 2012 #16

I don't like it either. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #25

+1 n/t duffyduff Dec 2012 #28

I did not intend to imply that I thought such things were acceptable Fumesucker Dec 2012 #35

Oh I know that. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #38

Students can and will complain marions ghost Dec 2012 #63

If you can't foresee this law being abused to silence legitimate critics Fumesucker Dec 2012 #65

I really doubt it marions ghost Dec 2012 #66

Calling a teacher a bad teacher online is not a crime bluestateguy Dec 2012 #37

One would think falsely accusing another of a crime, particularly one so heinous, Occulus Dec 2012 #40

I can see where this law would be needed Terra Alta Dec 2012 #41

K&R Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #45

I am so SICK of both student and societal disrespect to teachers elfin Dec 2012 #46

I'm sick of being the whipping post too. iemitsu Dec 2012 #52

Interesting insight marions ghost Dec 2012 #64

My school was a thriving, inter-city, comprehensive high school iemitsu Dec 2012 #68

thanks for posting this marions ghost Dec 2012 #69

Yeah, I guess people do whatever they think they must for iemitsu Dec 2012 #71

Next thing you know, kids will be executed for TP'ing teachers' homes lbrtbell Dec 2012 #53

The phrasing has enough wiggle room enough to make misuse by authoritarians inevitable. LeftyMom Dec 2012 #54

i agree that criminalizing student speech is a bad precedent (unless the speech is within the HiPointDem Dec 2012 #56

Truth should always be a defense. JoeyT Dec 2012 #57