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In reply to the discussion: Is male on male violence a feminist issue? [View all]obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)181. wtf -- who even thinks like that?!
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Abortion rights are an issue for any woman, for the reasons you mention. Women get pregnant.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#31
The self-deleted post by dsc in essence says the same thing as Lumberjack Jeff's post downthread
yardwork
Dec 2012
#83
it's a terribly selfish world view- and beyond that- what are those two doing about violence against
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#91
It's possible that I'm misunderstanding them but it's difficult to converse with self-deleters.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#92
I'm not convinced these guys want to advocate against any kind of violence.....
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#116
I'm not- it follows that he thinks since *some* men like himself probably, care less about
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#78
we were explaining to YOU, that lesbians have greatly helped out their straight sisters, so wtf
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#80
Making an occasional comment on a message board is not "active involvement". nt
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#140
this is correct. And maybe some lazy piggybacking- expecting us to do the advocacy for them?
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#34
I wasn't trying to say feminists don't care about all violence, I was just saying
ZombieHorde
Dec 2012
#27
Well all violations isn't right no matter who is doing it. We all should care and
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#13
but are all human issues feminist issues? like, global warming is a serious
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2012
#33
I agree with you. Let the men's rights' groups protest male on male violence.
MotherPetrie
Dec 2012
#26
I think that violence is a feminist issue because it is related to patriarchy.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#35
Those are positive by products of the successes of issues feminists work for.
boston bean
Dec 2012
#43
What I have always said is that feminism is humanism and you can't separate the two.
CTyankee
Dec 2012
#72
i am all for standing with men when they speak out about this. as a mama of two boys,
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#37
and that is why i do not buy into "all men are violent, in their DNA" the majority are not.
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#86
It seems like a lot of male on male violence is intended to put the victim in the female role.
LeftyMom
Dec 2012
#60
why do you think that male advocacy against violence is so unpopular and ineffective?
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#82
I asked why men aren't more frequently or effectively advocating against violence?
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#90
Are you criticizing feminism for focusing on violence perpetrated by men against women? nt
boston bean
Dec 2012
#101
You appear to be blaming women for men not doing enough about this? I hope I'm confused...
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#104
What a lazy excuse. Women hear the "what about men's" crap here all the time and it doesn't stop us!
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#190
Unlike you, the feminists are continuing a history of effective activism. They don't need "advice"
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#223
We don't have parity yet, but we're working on it! You shld take a lesson from feminists!
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#227
7% is less INaccurate than the rest of popular reporting on the issue.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#241
You seem to be disregarding the many posts in this thread that say the opposite.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#89
If "breaking free of gender roles" means more men go to college, or more women dying in wars...
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#99
Of course not. The wellbeing of men isn't and shouldn't be feminism's problem.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#111
Because feminist groups should be advocating for men's issues on equal par
boston bean
Dec 2012
#123
I advocate for the disabled. I don't pretend that I'm simultaneously advocating for everyone else.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#132
feminists don't examine the patriarchy? LOL. they kind of invented that field of study!
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#229
bullshit. wouldnt be involved with a man that thought fighting was the answer. ever. i have spoken
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#159
All three posters who replied to this misread, intentionally or otherwise, what I said.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#213
It most certainly IS a feminist issue. How boys and men define themselves through force is always
ancianita
Dec 2012
#98
excellent book, real boys. i bought it a decade ago to read. my then 8 yr old picked it up
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#160
No. Violence is the divider between genders. It IS part of the male identity construct.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#138
For indigenous peoples, women and the hearth were protected by the males, as they bore and
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#124
i didnt know this was about your thread. i didnt see this thread discussing m/f violence more than
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#161
i agree with you (which isn't to say that feminists don't care about such violence personally)
fishwax
Dec 2012
#152
No, because women can be isolated from the culture of violence and degredation
Romulox
Dec 2012
#167
i think a lot more men believe in feminist principles, than say you do
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2012
#199
There are some things that shouldn't be compartmentalized and violence is one of them
MrScorpio
Dec 2012
#201
"To say that women shouldn't express concern about male-on-male violence"
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#203
Thank you for illustrating the distinction between progressivism and feminism. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#216
or advocating for gay rights and progressivism, or advocating for climate change
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2012
#217
isn't that like saying distinction between progressivism and health care for all ?
JI7
Dec 2012
#230
I think feminism has and can do more against male vs male violence than men's rights groups.
Evoman
Dec 2012
#231
What is needed in that regard is a men's advocacy group without the RW politics and hate. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#235