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Lasher

(27,500 posts)
2. And neither is the Estate Tax.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:13 AM
Dec 2012

These are ways the wealthy elite 'earn' their dynasties without really working.

Why did you ignore the effect of inflation? Ignorance or deliberate omission? nt jody Dec 2012 #1
Ignorance. mia Dec 2012 #3
That's A Good Question ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #4
"doesn't make sense to me"? OP example includes increase in value due to inflation and taxes that jody Dec 2012 #6
Huh? ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #11
Please reread the OP and my reply #1 jody Dec 2012 #15
I'm not a professor, but I can think of four answers Orrex Dec 2012 #23
What? no. Investment income is not "inflation". -nt- DireStrike Dec 2012 #28
Capital gains are not all due to inflation Major Nikon Dec 2012 #57
"not all due to inflation" and I did not say they were. nt jody Dec 2012 #58
Neither did the OP say they weren't Major Nikon Dec 2012 #59
That's why I asked in #1 about the effects of inflation. nt jody Dec 2012 #60
You suggested the omission of that discussion was due to ignorance or was deliberate Major Nikon Dec 2012 #62
Suggest you google inflation "capital gains" nt jody Dec 2012 #63
Couldn't find anything about double taxation. Did find a lot of right wing propaganda. Major Nikon Dec 2012 #64
How about you take 10 seconds to post one cogent statement about what you are talking about? DireStrike Dec 2012 #96
What were Thomas Jefferson & James Madison nullifying, if you don't mind my asking? freshwest Dec 2012 #76
Alien and Sedition Acts see DU posts below jody Dec 2012 #83
It doesn't but it does contribute to tax on capital gains unless omitted. nt jody Dec 2012 #5
So maybe it deserves some adjustment to cover that. rucky Dec 2012 #7
How can the facts I stated have a tone? What is your agenda? nt jody Dec 2012 #8
Why do you presume agendas? JHB Dec 2012 #25
Why do you presume to speak for rucky to whom I posed a question? nt jody Dec 2012 #36
Because it's plain as day to everyone reading this thread... JHB Dec 2012 #43
You are a real piece of work. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #46
I support the Democratic Party Platform. Do you? jody Dec 2012 #53
Nope, trying to move it Left, you know, away from the likes of Republican Turd Wayers Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #65
You admit you are "Not even vaguely a supporter of anything Democratic." If you aren't a Democrat jody Dec 2012 #67
"Anything" is a key word in my statement. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #72
You asked me to figure it out, first guess is one of the socialist fringes from the list below. jody Dec 2012 #74
Right Wingers and Teabaggers always assume everyone not exactly like them are "Commies". Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #80
Very clever reply. nt jody Dec 2012 #84
So far you haven't stated any facts. You just keep asking questions about inflation. Walk away Dec 2012 #31
Yep. I think "Walk away" is appropriate here. It's like struggling in quicksand. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #42
There are a hundred ways to frame a fact. rucky Dec 2012 #35
No, I asked in #1 a simple question. You and others who post to this thread wander all over the jody Dec 2012 #39
Inflation Contributes To Tax On Wage Income, Also, Sir: What Is Your Point? The Magistrate Dec 2012 #9
I stated a fact. Sorry you can't draw logical conclusions. nt jody Dec 2012 #10
A Logical Conclusion to An Illogical Statement? ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #13
Please read #15 professor. nt jody Dec 2012 #16
The Logical Conclusion, Sir, is That You Favor One Group Of Tax-Payers Over Another The Magistrate Dec 2012 #22
Ridiculous, the logical conclusion from your post is you don't have a clue about the subject. nt jody Dec 2012 #32
I See, Sir: You Are Here For Abuse, Not An Argument The Magistrate Dec 2012 #48
What a twist. You ignore the OP and my reply #1 and then have the audacity to accuse me of abuse! nt jody Dec 2012 #54
Inflation is 'backed out' of long term capital gains via 'Cost basis' adjustment on point Dec 2012 #18
You're inserting a red herring into a topic that is already beset by coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #30
That is typical right wing argument. Impact of inflation is negligible, Hoyt Dec 2012 #37
Why don't you understand inflation doesn't increase the income? jeff47 Dec 2012 #49
Please reread the OP. It does not claim short-term capital gains hence it could be long-term. If the jody Dec 2012 #55
Affect it should have nothing to do with tax rates. jeff47 Dec 2012 #66
Understand and agree. You point out the difference between short and long term rates attempt to jody Dec 2012 #68
And neither is the Estate Tax. Lasher Dec 2012 #2
The poster is confused -- it is dividends that are taxed twice FarCenter Dec 2012 #12
You're Last Point Is The Argument for the Low Rate ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #14
I think that corporate income taxes should be done away with and dividends taxes as ordinary income FarCenter Dec 2012 #21
I'll buy that argument Diego_Native 2012 Dec 2012 #19
That is a spurious argument by the rich dbackjon Dec 2012 #20
I think that is what happened still_one Dec 2012 #27
Dividends are not taxed twice. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #29
All income is taxed many, many times. jeff47 Dec 2012 #50
What is the rationale for taxing C Corporations differently than S Corporations, LLCs & Partnerships FarCenter Dec 2012 #71
Convenience jeff47 Dec 2012 #87
Thats not what "taxing income twice" means though. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #17
Even under that meaning it is still not double taxation. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #24
Exactly. If I am taxed and I hire you as a contractor to build me Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #61
I think you left out a critical part of their analysis as follows Swede Atlanta Dec 2012 #26
They left out a few other things jmowreader Dec 2012 #38
a sole proprietorship is probably not going to incorporate hfojvt Dec 2012 #44
People who say this shit... jmowreader Dec 2012 #33
Emphatic K&R! (attempted red herrings notwithstanding) - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #34
Sometimes it is double taxation, sometimes it isn't customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #40
silly in a couple ways hfojvt Dec 2012 #41
K&R It is impossible to overstate the effectiveness of arithmetic ignorance. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #45
They should pay the same amount humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #47
Especially now that corporations are people too! marybourg Dec 2012 #51
The rational for a lower capital gains tax is that... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #52
Taxing dividends is not "double dipping." SunSeeker Dec 2012 #69
I don't disagree with you, but that's the argument that is being made by some. (NT) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #70
The corporation and the shareholder are not separate. former9thward Dec 2012 #77
It's not the same money. It is earned differently by different entities. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #85
You are wrong on everything. former9thward Dec 2012 #89
LOL. I've got Costco stock--so I own the "machines, land, everything" --yippeeee! SunSeeker Dec 2012 #90
That people buy stock as an investment is besides the point. former9thward Dec 2012 #91
It is exactly the point. Why people do stuff is what tax policy is based on. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #93
No they weren't facing any shareholder suit. former9thward Dec 2012 #94
Thanks, I have. Companies who respect their workers do better. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #95
I'd say treat all income the same, including inheritance. I've heard people claim it's brewens Dec 2012 #56
makes it really tough to a family brokechris Dec 2012 #73
Taxing dividends is not what is killing the family farm. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #86
I was responding to the person who brokechris Dec 2012 #88
I agree except on one point: Ilsa Dec 2012 #75
I had this argument with a guy who makes 100% OF HIS INCOME Evasporque Dec 2012 #78
It is another republican lie. liberal N proud Dec 2012 #79
All money is taxed until it disappears quaker bill Dec 2012 #81
Capital Gains is the difference in the original investment substracted from selling price, Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #82
A high capital gains tax rate encourages investment in the real economy. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #92
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