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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
133. All these"urban myths," examples and government statistics.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:35 PM
Dec 2012

It guess everyone on this board and those who publish government reports are liars. You are the sole arbiter of truth. Of course, you can't actually cite anything to support your position, except "reality." And when you are provided with real stories, real facts and real reports, you dig in further.

It must be tough being the only one who is familiar with every marijuana-related conviction and no one believes you.

Yes dammit! Deep13 Dec 2012 #1
Hear! Hear! ReRe Dec 2012 #22
I think you have to consider the difference between decriminalization and legalization frazzled Dec 2012 #2
I think you have it backwards NoOneMan Dec 2012 #31
Bingo. It will take legalization to get crime out of drugs. Scuba Dec 2012 #55
Hear, Hear! truebluegreen Dec 2012 #66
First of all he experimented and was not some hardcore user or dealer. lalalu Dec 2012 #3
People do get arrested and go to jail for experimenting with pot Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #6
Urban myth lalalu Dec 2012 #10
k Go Vols Dec 2012 #11
You proved my point. lalalu Dec 2012 #13
lol Go Vols Dec 2012 #18
He was on probation for robbery, not smoking a joint. lalalu Dec 2012 #20
At the time of his final arrest, was the arrest truly for a robbery or for smoking a joint? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #33
Patrick is that you? snooper2 Dec 2012 #59
You are woefully uninformed. tabasco Dec 2012 #14
First of all the issue was incarceration and lalalu Dec 2012 #17
not false! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #48
So you were hanging put with dealers and police informants and lalalu Dec 2012 #75
You need reading comprehension lessons. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #109
no doubt stupidicus Dec 2012 #140
wow! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #142
Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true tabasco Dec 2012 #62
Yet you keep repeating a falsehood. lalalu Dec 2012 #76
Employers and schools will still be able to test if it is legalized. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #117
It is not a myth, there are numbers to back it up Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #15
People are not arrested every 42 seconds and put in jail lalalu Dec 2012 #19
It is a fact that there are more than a million people in our prisons and jails on marijuana charges Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #28
"While it is true that a good number of those people have other things on their record " lalalu Dec 2012 #77
If you are going to quote me at least quote me in full rather than leaving out the crucial part Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #81
I ignored it because it is not true. lalalu Dec 2012 #82
False, people are taken to jail when they are first arrested Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #92
ridiculous indeed stupidicus Dec 2012 #30
Prove it was for weed only. lalalu Dec 2012 #78
What is silly is denying that people are incarcerated for weed Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #83
Actually people opposing the legalizing of weed link lalalu Dec 2012 #84
It is linked to incarceration, that is an undeniable fact Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #85
Those people are not in jail for just smoking a joint lalalu Dec 2012 #91
Can you claim that no one is taken to the county jail when first arrested for smoking a joint? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #94
Most people are not even arrested and that is my point. lalalu Dec 2012 #96
If Obama had been arrested he would not be President today Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #98
So now you have a crystal ball? lalalu Dec 2012 #101
You de realize that people lose financial aid and scholarships when they are arrested correct? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #106
There is at least one person who faced serious legal consequences for smoking a joint Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #95
He can hang out with whomever he chooses. lalalu Dec 2012 #100
Do you not understand that when you make something illegal, any and all activity morningfog Dec 2012 #103
News flash: pot smokers buy pot from people who sell pot Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #105
So now President Obama associated with drug dealers? lalalu Dec 2012 #107
Most pot smokers have associated with dealers Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #118
There is one person who does keep losing an argument here. morningfog Dec 2012 #125
no, you prove it wasn't stupidicus Dec 2012 #139
Support? Data? Link? Anything other than your ass talking? morningfog Dec 2012 #43
Data to support what? lalalu Dec 2012 #79
Ah, you are backtracking now. morningfog Dec 2012 #102
You really need a joint. lalalu Dec 2012 #110
That person just completely destroyed your argument and that is your best rebuttal? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #113
NO, they did not. lalalu Dec 2012 #116
So which one of the statistics presented is skewed? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #121
In those statistics there lalalu Dec 2012 #126
Point to such notations. morningfog Dec 2012 #130
You are making up false arguments to distract from the real numbers. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #134
Follow the links. FBI, DOJ and Federal Sentencing Guidelines. morningfog Dec 2012 #124
Here are the federal penalities for marijuana neverforget Dec 2012 #129
You completely ignored all the facts I provided. morningfog Dec 2012 #123
which in no way rebuts the fact that many do stupidicus Dec 2012 #144
Educate yourself and stop spreading your stinky BS tabasco Dec 2012 #63
Name calling is what people do when they have lost their argument. lalalu Dec 2012 #80
Let's see laundry_queen Dec 2012 #111
Yes, some people on the left are stupid and lalalu Dec 2012 #115
Maybe you don't walk in a "goose-step" but reading your posts Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #131
Nice picture of yourself. lalalu Dec 2012 #132
Bullshit. Utter bullshit. morningfog Dec 2012 #42
Yes, it is. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #57
You need a joint lalalu Dec 2012 #86
No, you need a clue. morningfog Dec 2012 #104
I have a friend that spent 3 years in an Arizona prison over 3 joints. nt PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #51
MYTH!1111!!1!! Grabaraghhaha!!1!! morningfog Dec 2012 #128
He is a Navajo Indian and that was the 1970s. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #137
Well, I do know people that have been arrested and sent to jail as teenagers Live and Learn Dec 2012 #53
For smoking a joint? lalalu Dec 2012 #87
good grief stupidicus Dec 2012 #143
"I have never known a single person who went to jail & had their lives ruined over smoking a joint." Hissyspit Dec 2012 #56
You heard a story a few years back..... lalalu Dec 2012 #89
All these"urban myths," examples and government statistics. morningfog Dec 2012 #133
Bullshit. It was a well documented NPR piece. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #138
are you a shill or just naive? icarusxat Dec 2012 #60
LOL, your friend was targeted for selling crap and not lalalu Dec 2012 #88
You are in heavy denial. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #70
Oklahoma woman serving 12 years for pot case released from prison Read more from this Tulsa World a Cayenne Dec 2012 #108
Here we go again. lalalu Dec 2012 #112
Don't embellish her story without facts. Cayenne Dec 2012 #120
Here is what you refuse to deal with: morningfog Dec 2012 #127
My husband's life was ruined over smoking marijuana Nikia Dec 2012 #135
Blacks account for 12% of the population, 14% of annual marijuana users, & 31% of mj arrests. progressoid Dec 2012 #136
Not a hardcore user with permanent brain damage like, um, I dunno... Deep13 Dec 2012 #8
people who use too much alcohol? Coyotl Dec 2012 #21
Too much booze, too much cocaine... Deep13 Dec 2012 #23
Coke AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #40
Don't forget Laura was drunk and killed a teenager. lalalu Dec 2012 #24
I would guess that a pretty high proportion of politicians, white or black, have used illegal drugs LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #9
I have always loved the word "experiment". It is SUCH bullshit. Bonobo Dec 2012 #41
I am still experimenting and wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #50
You've shown correlation but not causation? Ken Burch Dec 2012 #54
You should research the statistics of black men who have been in jail. morningfog Dec 2012 #44
The majority of marijuana arrests come because of a minor traffic violation obxhead Dec 2012 #47
In the '60s, some marijuana arrests came about as a result of police planting grass. Maybe they AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #64
He was a pot smoker for at least several months in New York City... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #71
So are you under the impression that an arresting officer asks black young men if Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #114
The question that should be asked to all politicians who have used any illegal drug is... Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #4
But of course the Republicans have the Born Again option. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #5
That question should be asked of Holder. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #34
, Go Vols Dec 2012 #7
Just a voice in the darkness ! chille1 Dec 2012 #12
There is no honest rational for pot to be Schedule I PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #52
Wow. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #119
According to his policies it should have been. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #16
Bingo! n/t truebluegreen Dec 2012 #67
or Bush or Gore or (insert name of a majority politicians you see on TV)? underpants Dec 2012 #25
You mean like Rush Limbaugh's life was destroyed by a drug bust. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #26
It probably would have been if he were a black college age kid Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #29
Apparently his life and his brain was destroyed by drugs, not a drug bust. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #35
Obama is way too smart to let us down on this issue. nt tridim Dec 2012 #27
Sure he is.. Upton Dec 2012 #36
I'm feeling really good about my prediction. tridim Dec 2012 #61
Fine. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #68
He already has. morningfog Dec 2012 #45
no, as no ones should stupidicus Dec 2012 #32
For him it's okay SHRED Dec 2012 #37
Well said... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #38
Excellent post. woo me with science Dec 2012 #39
agreed - i hope the democratic leadership is not stupid enough to go against the will of the people samsingh Dec 2012 #46
POTUS Obama is a liar and a hypocrite regards to pot policy. nt PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #49
You Think MSM Will Confront Him On This? YOHABLO Dec 2012 #58
No, but he was 100% opposite on the record when campaigning in 2008. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #65
If he hasn't figured it out by now then... wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #69
Great idea for a post! I beat you to it by four years... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #72
It's a good point Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #73
Agree! LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #74
He was fortunate to avoid arrest. Or worse a minor arrest /w evidence planting by corrupt police. Sunlei Dec 2012 #90
I agree it should all be decriminalized treestar Dec 2012 #93
I hate to break this to you but 'the average white kid' does a variety of drugs that Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #122
Prohibition of anything is a big fantasyland joke. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #97
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #99
Let the Feds go after large, multi-state criminal drug-dealing gangs, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #141
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