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I also heard... essaynnc Sep 16 #1
Short barrels. Not overly accurate. marble falls Sep 16 #4
What are you comparing them to? sarisataka Sep 16 #57
Oh, I dunno, say a scoped hunting rifle. Effective and accurate are not the same thing. marble falls Sep 16 #71
When speaking of rifles, effective and accurate are synonymous. sarisataka Sep 16 #72
That's less than 500 yards. At 500 yards a 24 inch demosincebirth Sep 16 #78
He had an AK-47 Kaleva Sep 16 #6
Correct. When I change the firearm type, Google's answer changes: Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #13
Yes Kaleva Sep 16 #15
US Army BRM is 50-300 meters (328 yards) underpants Sep 16 #40
Making it less accurate Aviation Pro Sep 16 #54
Interesting question. According to Google * Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #8
Think this was an SKS, bigger caliber than the AR ExciteBike66 Sep 16 #9
Caliber, as in bullet diameter, is almost meaningless for this discussion sir pball Sep 16 #34
The accuracy of the AR-15 depends upong the maker, model and ammo... but Happy Hoosier Sep 16 #43
It depends on what you consider long distance sarisataka Sep 16 #48
And, it was a straight-off-the-rack, plain Jane M16A1. yagotme Sep 16 #58
Actually was a Hollywood Marine sarisataka Sep 16 #59
Yeah, I had a bad year once. Twisted my ankle pretty bad week before RR, they still sent me. yagotme Sep 16 #60
M-1 for me. 300 was rather easy. 500 was not all that difficult. Ping Tung Sep 16 #79
He had an AK-47, not an AR-15 jmowreader Sep 16 #73
AK-47? So I've heard. SharonAnn Sep 16 #80
In theory, if that distance...he would need a scope Dan Sep 16 #82
The media will milk this story for days. Lonestarblue Sep 16 #2
Yep and I was sick of it after the first hour. Bev54 Sep 16 #53
The media has been reporting that Trump wasn't in danger Kaleva Sep 16 #3
Guy probably thinks he's going to be pardoned bucolic_frolic Sep 16 #5
It was at best a foiled attempt malaise Sep 16 #7
He was waiting at the golf course hole for Trump to arrive. John1956PA Sep 16 #10
I'm not sure why most people don't ... Whiskeytide Sep 16 #67
As I understand it the SS was a hole ahead ahead of drumpf Takket Sep 16 #11
How did he know about the unscheduled golf outing? Emile Sep 16 #12
Excellent question. Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #14
Just follow the motorcade jmbar2 Sep 16 #16
He sure as shit wasn't out on the campaign trail,nah....keep golfing Trump,it will be over soon! Bengus81 Sep 16 #22
He campaigns like he's still on the TV show jmbar2 Sep 16 #26
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He was there 12 hours. Emile Sep 16 #84
If you know what town he's in, you know he's going to the golf course. jmbar2 Sep 16 #85
So he didn't follow the motorcade and knew for Emile Sep 16 #86
Trump golfs every day jmbar2 Sep 16 #87
So? Emile Sep 16 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 16 #93
Trump plays almost every Sunday he's there. underpants Sep 16 #39
It was a Sunday and not raining. Attilatheblond Sep 16 #77
He ate a lot of carrots to get such great peepers! Omnipresent Sep 16 #17
Didn't Trumps buddies over at CNN announce he was "leaving" Mar-a-logo? Bengus81 Sep 16 #18
Routh may not have even seen tfg yet. duncang Sep 16 #19
Hitting out to 500 meters with optics is not difficult Abnredleg Sep 16 #20
I wonder if whomever supplied the rifle claimed that it was sighted in--had he ever fired it? John Farmer Sep 16 #69
There is a fairly big difference.... Happy Hoosier Sep 16 #76
Doesn't someone have to actually fire a shot to be a 'shooter'? Captain Stern Sep 16 #21
Precisely n/t malaise Sep 16 #25
No. TwilightZone Sep 16 #30
Depends on the context. John1956PA Sep 16 #46
I get your point, but the definition you provided confirms what I said, doesn't it? Captain Stern Sep 16 #66
Didn't the shooter assume Trump would be moving closer to him? Irish_Dem Sep 16 #23
The 300-500 could have been from where the shooter was to the green Trump LizBeth Sep 16 #47
Yes. This is a logical assumption. Irish_Dem Sep 16 #90
How would we know this? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #50
Crime scene analysis Irish_Dem Sep 16 #89
The rifle he had was also the wrong gun to use obamanut2012 Sep 16 #24
300 to 500 meters is is not long range Abnredleg Sep 16 #28
Heck DeepWinter Sep 16 #35
US Army BRM is from 50-300 meters (328 yards). You're right this isn't extremely far underpants Sep 16 #36
2000m is an exceptionally long range shot sir pball Sep 16 #42
2000 ***METERS*** is more than a mile and typical snipers shoot in 3 - 600 meter range (google results) uponit7771 Sep 16 #64
Current record is 3,800 meters EX500rider Sep 16 #92
If his intent was assassination, he was probably waiting for Trump to get closer. Martin Eden Sep 16 #27
Trump traveled from Mar-a-Lago to the golf course in West Palm Beach. John1956PA Sep 16 #31
That's what I thought too underpants Sep 16 #37
Regarding the seemingly illogical layout of the golf course Martin Eden Sep 16 #41
Does he have a food taster? GreenWave Sep 16 #29
Trump wasn't threatened. DJ Porkchop Sep 16 #32
Didn't he have a scope? hlthe2b Sep 16 #33
It's been reported that he did. underpants Sep 16 #38
It depends on the equipment (range finder, etc) and the skill level of the shooter. Practice, practice, practice surfered Sep 16 #45
I would consider 300 on the low end of medium range sarisataka Sep 16 #49
Seems lone wolves do exist. Let's see what this guy has to say. Is he really a lone wolf nut or... brush Sep 16 #51
Wondering what happened to the two people shooting at each other originally reported? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #52
That initial report was wrong DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 16 #56
Really? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #75
500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile Wiz Imp Sep 16 #55
The wonders of modern technology sarisataka Sep 16 #61
TSF was about 3-500 yards away when gunman was discovered by SS, yagotme Sep 16 #62
You're not alone. Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #68
From another post I just read: Wiz Imp Sep 16 #83
Was shooter planning on firing from 500 yards, or was he set up for when trump got closer? Think it's latter. Silent Type Sep 16 #63
right, 500 meters is a over a quarter mile away and even with best equipment that's a hard shot in populated area uponit7771 Sep 16 #65
How populated is a golf course? sarisataka Sep 16 #70
He wasn't a shooter Johnny2X2X Sep 16 #74
He was at the next hole, laying in wait. 300-500 yards is typical in golf courses. TheBlackAdder Sep 16 #81
From everything I've heard about the layout and the timeline ... Straw Man Sep 16 #91
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