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Prairie Gates

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15. There's a spectrum

Reply to ExciteBike66 (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 16, 2024, 10:32 AM

Aug 2024

From real draft resisters, to people having a moral/ethical dilemma (like O'Brien's narrator), to outright cowards who use deceit and actually support the war themselves. Trump's on the bad end of that spectrum for me. It's not an all or nothing thing. I admire many draft resisters, for instance. Nobody can admire somebody who was gung-ho for the war, but got their rich Daddy to buy them a IV-F because they didn't want to actually fight it themselves.

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Trump's View on the Military was Profoundly Shaped by his Draft Avoidance during Vietnam [View all] Prairie Gates Aug 2024 OP

He was a narcisist who was forced to be subserviant in military school getagrip_already Aug 2024 #1

It's sort of like he's a coward so he hates anybody with courage Walleye Aug 2024 #3

Yes he must denigrate those with courage Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #4

I also think he learned the "suckers and losers" bit at his father's knee Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #5

The reason that W called up so many national guard units in his war is because Walleye Aug 2024 #2

Well, that and he ran out of regular troops he could send getagrip_already Aug 2024 #6

Yes, that was the exact reason, but he got a little psychological boost from it too I think Walleye Aug 2024 #8

They were deployed in nam, coast guard also.... getagrip_already Aug 2024 #9

True, but as I remember most of the guys in those days join the guard so they wouldn't have to go to Vietnam Walleye Aug 2024 #10

You generally werent direct combat, so there was that getagrip_already Aug 2024 #14

I'm not the type to support the draft or bash draft dodgers, but... ExciteBike66 Aug 2024 #7

Yeah, but the new gop is not conservative.... getagrip_already Aug 2024 #11

Correct, it is now the party of butt-hurt boys Walleye Aug 2024 #13

They are right-wing radicals, orthoclad Aug 2024 #19

They want to say, "well he didn't lie about his record. There was no stolen valor."He fucking lied about the bone spurs. Walleye Aug 2024 #12

Exactly: and somebody else from his region went as they moved down the list Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #16

There's a spectrum Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #15

I was a draft resister. orthoclad Aug 2024 #18

He was just like all the other richies orthoclad Aug 2024 #17