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Weren't we leaving this up to teachers until we saw things sliding? dkf Dec 2012 #1
No. The teachers have always been left out of the reform game. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #3
But why did it need to be reformed? dkf Dec 2012 #8
Becuase silhouete2 Dec 2012 #11
It doesn't. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #12
+100,000 gollygee Dec 2012 #14
Bingo! We have a winner! lolly Dec 2012 #17
Because there's money in that, or because someone thought kids were learning the 'wrong' things Posteritatis Dec 2012 #13
People (and corporations) saw the giant revenue stream and wanted to get in on it. SharonAnn Dec 2012 #22
Bullshit we were "leaving it up to teachers" for a long time. That's never liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #4
But our spending is outsized compared to other countries. dkf Dec 2012 #10
Watch this: proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #16
We never were behind. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #27
True catrose Dec 2012 #31
How the banks that bought factories and companies JDPriestly Dec 2012 #5
You have my vote for best response! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #26
Thank you JDPriestly! n/t truedelphi Dec 2012 #53
When was it ever left up to teachers? gollygee Dec 2012 #6
Who else is there? Administrators? dkf Dec 2012 #19
Politicians gollygee Dec 2012 #21
That is the downside of bad performance. You open it up to bad fixes. dkf Dec 2012 #28
I didn't say bad performance started it gollygee Dec 2012 #38
1. ELECTED OFFICIALS proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #23
There was a time when our schools were the best. dkf Dec 2012 #29
We're in the top three worldwide proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #45
What particular time period are you talking about? Mariana Dec 2012 #49
You are repeating myths. roody Dec 2012 #51
UH--- silhouete2 Dec 2012 #9
+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #15
Welcome to DU, silhouete2! And thank you for this post. calimary Dec 2012 #20
No that can't be the main problem. dkf Dec 2012 #25
Most of what you mention are problems of the fix. dkf Dec 2012 #24
It was mentioned above. wcast Dec 2012 #36
Back when the whole effort started, it was a big push in math TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #42
Okay that is the best explanation I have seen by far. dkf Dec 2012 #44
Some of the problem is that everything isn't as cut and dry as you'd like to make it silhouete2 Dec 2012 #43
I might accept your explanation if I didn't see how well Asian immigrants do in Hawaii. dkf Dec 2012 #47
I think you proved my point silhouete2 Dec 2012 #48
Seriously? Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #18
Teachers have never been in charge. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #30
Geez then what are we arguing about if teachers have never been in charge. dkf Dec 2012 #33
Yup. Schools have always been the scapegoat. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #35
The perfect decided they knew better. Igel Dec 2012 #34
I think it began with your heart throb Ronald Reagan. GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #37
administration is the bane of teaching. I can't go to my favorite restaurant roguevalley Dec 2012 #41
What did you see sliding? roody Dec 2012 #50
What changed it was Republicans pushing to privatize Education and a lot of people jumped sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #52
Amen. I grew up with teacher parents liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #2
Fixing sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #7
Drink the kool aid Danang1968 Dec 2012 #32
One of the last big pools of capital to privatize, public education funding Coyotl Dec 2012 #39
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #40
I am disgusted with how teachers are treated in this country obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #46
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