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Plucketeer

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24. Well - it's no wonder they're allergic to the D-word

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:48 PM

Dec 2012

They figure, go let the crazies and the desperate fight these stupid wars. Why should WE stick our necks out???

I'm ahshamed at what my once proud branch of the service has become. It's sure not the Air Force I remember!

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West Point cadet drops out to protest influence of fundamentalist Christianity [View all] kpete Dec 2012 OP

This is a growing problem in the military and I hope we can overcome it in time. LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #1

What we have is a praetorian guard nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

I have often argued that exact point. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #15

What you said. cliffordu Dec 2012 #27

Jackpine, you lived it, yet you still fail history. Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #60

I think the course of the war was altered by the antiwar movement, Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #63

You were part of Oleo Strut? Unknown Beatle Dec 2012 #70

I was at Hood in late '68 for my last 6 months after Nam. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #72

now we just have an economic draft. a universal draft had this benefit: if things got too extreme, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #88

I agree - A universal draft into public service would democratize the military. Thunderbeast Dec 2012 #17

FWIW, gejohnston Dec 2012 #26

+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #35

Let's start with understanding how the military is funded jmowreader Dec 2012 #41

I would oppose a draft just on the principle of it. Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #61

Actually you are wrong nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #89

You don't think draftees wouldn't be subject to the same bullshit? TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #23

More brilliant people than me have described what happens nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #28

I wish I could recommend this post. SO true. It is a slippery slope we are headed down loudsue Dec 2012 #58

"Once proud"? "Becomes"? I think one can safely argue... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #82

Then off to a coup we go nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #85

Amen MadMonk!!! Testify Brother!!! Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #62

Well - it's no wonder they're allergic to the D-word Plucketeer Dec 2012 #24

I agree and we should draft women as well as men. mulsh Dec 2012 #37

Oh no doubt, a modern day draft includes both genders. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #38

with absolutely NO EXCEPTIONS OR DEFERMENTS Raster Dec 2012 #78

I can see one nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #91

Nadin, what is a "butter bar"? Raster Dec 2012 #93

Second Liutenenat nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #95

That Won't Fix What is Going on in the Officer Corps AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #47

Read this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #74

If We Had a Draft, a Whole Generation Would Have been Subject to this Forced Fundie indoctrination AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #75

If you believe that family members nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #87

not all paths to comission are through West Point pasto76 Dec 2012 #55

True, but ring knockers make the majority nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #73

He shouldn't have to give up his career Politicalboi Dec 2012 #33

The only reason in my mind it matters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39

It's inspiring that he is so committed to integrity and closeupready Dec 2012 #2

You need to visit the 'Military Religious Freedom Foundation' site.They keep an eye on the problem: Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #3

yes, yes, yes duhneece Dec 2012 #4

Agreed. I watched the founder of MRFF, Mikey Weinstein, on C-Span & what he had to say scared whathehell Dec 2012 #54

There is a great interview with Michael "Mikey" Weinstein, the founder ChachaCha Dec 2012 #67

K&R for the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. They do great work. Overseas Dec 2012 #68

Christian Evangelist = American Taliban Rockyj Dec 2012 #5

Ditto. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Dec 2012 #6

By realising that there is no negotiating with extremists. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #30

From what I've seen, the Air Force Academy is even worse DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #8

It is worse jmowreader Dec 2012 #43

The Air Force Academy ought to be disbanded. hunter Dec 2012 #66

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2012 #76

Onward Christian soldiers and airmen .......... all you heathens out. Smilo Dec 2012 #9

BACK IN 1970 ROBROX Dec 2012 #10

I thought it was about a cadet who was trying to preach in class SaveAmerica Dec 2012 #11

Admire him. Unfortunately, he's just the kind of person we do need in West Point. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #12

The Rapture Reich is Just Like Rust triplepoint Dec 2012 #13

At West Point? KamaAina Dec 2012 #14

Yeah it seems the fundie nutjobs have taken over all our military institutions. Initech Dec 2012 #18

Swearing to uphold the constitution and then letting religious nuts run things. Initech Dec 2012 #16

Wasn't there a gay marriage that was recently held in the West Point chapel? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #19

"Go to Sunday Service, or get KP Duty" HockeyMom Dec 2012 #20

there are quite a few Wiccans in the Air Force gejohnston Dec 2012 #31

Yes, we do hold services on Saturdays sakabatou Dec 2012 #65

Purge sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #21

My son n law that is a major marlakay Dec 2012 #22

Want more info on this?? Here ya go! cliffordu Dec 2012 #25

"Spiritual Fitness" DemoTex Dec 2012 #29

Pushed by people like Patraeus nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #32

My son, a former Marine (8 years) said the proselytizing by fundamentalist Christians stanwyck Dec 2012 #34

Some are more sensitive to it than others... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #36

Question for others: does *anyone* believe that statement? Occulus Dec 2012 #46

This is not complicated stuff. sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #50

100% agree. Straight and to the point. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #52

You're kidding right? tia uponit7771 Dec 2012 #77

Nope... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #79

Did you go to West Point? sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #80

No... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #81

In 1969 sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #83

I would likely have a problem with that as well.. Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #84

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #40

Downward Xtian Soldiers - marching to ChristoFascism Berlum Dec 2012 #42

Imbalance of power felix_numinous Dec 2012 #44

How about considering the closing of all military academies paid for by the government? olegramps Dec 2012 #45

The military trains both lawyers and doctors nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #90

That only reinforces my point. Their education is paid for and then they leave the service. olegramps Dec 2012 #92

A captain/ major nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #94

Woulda thought the other side would be leaving in protest dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #48

Funny how the least Christian of environments tend to have the most outspoken ones. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #49

Very funny, in a very dark, sad way. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #53

The ends justify the means Tsiyu Dec 2012 #96

k&r ! trailmonkee Dec 2012 #51

Onward Christian soldiers, mightily proselyting their prey with the fanaticism indepat Dec 2012 #56

Looks kind of like some people have more of a need for strong external support for values they say patrice Dec 2012 #57

There was an incredible Harper's article on the AF Academy a few years back. DirkGently Dec 2012 #59

The Military Was Not Established For The Defense Of Only Christians. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #64

Excellent article on the crusade for a Christian military by Jeff Sharlet Overseas Dec 2012 #69

Thanks GW. sarchasm Dec 2012 #71

"These men and women are criminals" HiPointDem Dec 2012 #86