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Turk182

(166 posts) Wed Aug 7, 2024, 08:36 AM Aug 7

Is AIPAC trying to silence criticism of Israel? [View all]

“This cycle, they are going even bigger. AIPAC is expected to spend $100 million across its political entities in 2024, taking aim at candidates they deem insufficiently supportive of Israel”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/aipac-israel-spending-democratic-primaries-00144552

This is a very powerful group and we can see that within the Democratic Party itself, people are afraid to criticize Israel, and those that do are demonized and primaried by this group. This group will give money to an election denying Republican If they support Israel, they will also give money to a Democrat if they support Israel. Why take money from this group?
They seem to be a single issue group, and their issue is not America’s issue.
Please take note that I fully support Israel and their people, but at this point in history their leader and their lobbying groups have lost their way. And it should be OK to point it out and not be labeled with some Internet smear.
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Is AIPAC trying to silence criticism of Israel? [View all] Turk182 Aug 7 OP

Contributions equate to influence. Surprising to me oil money from somewhere isn't on the other side. NoMoreRepugs Aug 7 #1

Cori bush voted no on critical president Biden's agenda. jimfields33 Aug 7 #35

Yes. Think. Again. Aug 7 #2

Of course they are SocialDemocrat61 Aug 7 #3

Yes and that has ALWAYS been what they see as their role karynnj Aug 7 #4

Yes Nanjeanne Aug 7 #5

It's an American pro-Israel lobbying group. TwilightZone Aug 7 #6

Strange thing is Turk182 Aug 7 #9

Groups don't have too. jimfields33 Aug 7 #36

Of course they do Turk182 Aug 7 #38

The US Govt. disagrees with you regarding AIPAC violating the terms of FARA. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #41

US Government also... Turk182 Aug 7 #43

One more time, the bottom line is that the Govt. disagrees with your assertion that AIPAC is MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #45

I get your point, the government disagrees with me Turk182 Aug 7 #46

Welp, have fun with that. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #47

I was just wondering if your response would be the same Turk182 Aug 7 #48

That's a lie. Mosby Aug 7 #73

? Turk182 Aug 7 #74

Right here Mosby Aug 7 #75

Can you point to examples iemanja Aug 7 #113

That person does not have an agenda at DU. Not any longer progree Aug 8 #141

👍 Mosby Aug 8 #143

They seem a bit extremist about it though Mad_Machine76 Aug 7 #29

But is there a distinction?" Turk182 Aug 7 #63

unequivocolly yes. dsp3000 Aug 7 #7

AIPAC isn't even in the top 20 in lobby groups spending. Mosby Aug 7 #80

"Lost their way"...in whose opinion. CincyDem Aug 7 #8

Why shouldn't they be registered as a foreign agent? Turk182 Aug 7 #12

Because they are funded by American citizens, not a foreign government. CincyDem Aug 7 #14

Is that really required? Turk182 Aug 7 #16

Does that fact change your mind? Turk182 Aug 7 #20

If you're so concerned, then by all means, file a complaint to the proper channels MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #22

That doesn't make sense Turk182 Aug 7 #24

It all comes down to what her constituents believed MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #27

So Turk182 Aug 7 #33

I really, really don't care what you buy, it's irrelevant. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #37

The US government also... Turk182 Aug 7 #39

And yet, the bottom line is that AIPAC is not violating FARA according to the Govt. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #42

" AIPAC is not violating FARA according to the Govt." Turk182 Aug 7 #44

I am in this district and the difference in campaign resources was stark GumboYaYa Aug 7 #71

Cori was an incumbent. She wasn't unknown. Nixie Aug 7 #118

I thought running against an unpopular incumbent and winning was The Will of the People and earning votes betsuni Aug 8 #135

She obviously didn't serve her constituents well. She voted against the infrastructure plan, JohnSJ Aug 7 #32

You Do Know What Being An Agent Is, Sir? The Magistrate Aug 7 #105

FARA DeepWinter Aug 7 #15

That's what i thought Turk182 Aug 7 #17

AIPAC isn't required to register under FARA. The law is pretty clear onenote Aug 7 #21

I see a problem... Turk182 Aug 7 #23

You see a problem, yet the US Govt. doesn't, so, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #25

Decide for yourself... Turk182 Aug 7 #28

It is a choice between what you believe and what the US Govt believes, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #34

" It is a choice between what you believe and what the US Govt believes," Turk182 Aug 7 #76

No problem onenote Aug 7 #26

You don't see anything NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #88

" Lost their way"...in whose opinion." Turk182 Aug 7 #13

Agree completely...but that's what elections are for. CincyDem Aug 7 #18

?? Turk182 Aug 7 #19

"Independent of ... leadership in Israel"? Is that really true? muriel_volestrangler Aug 7 #50

Yes, of course. nt Celerity Aug 7 #10

Of course, and I am probably anti-Semitic JCMach1 Aug 7 #11

Exactly. A two state solution and a lasting peace for B.See Aug 7 #95

Hmm - no JustAnotherGen Aug 7 #30

But the NAACP supports Americans Diraven Aug 7 #52

EXACTLY B.See Aug 7 #96

I agree. Voters decide. But more fun to get people all worked up and frightened, helpless victims betsuni Aug 7 #54

Though not quite as scary, I'm sure, as B.See Aug 7 #97

"dictating foreign policy to presidential candidates"? Who? How? What proof is there of that? betsuni Aug 7 #98

I think you got the gist of my response. Nonetheless B.See Aug 7 #108

But they are not "under the bed" They are skirting election financing laws and throwing millions of dollars into Zipgun Aug 7 #109

How are they skirting election financing laws? How are they influencing politicians? betsuni Aug 7 #119

By timing very large last minute donations to go out after disclosure and reporting laws will be able to show exactly Zipgun Aug 7 #124

What if that ton of money is spent on GOP candidates? Will you be so happy then? They are not here to support democrats Zipgun Aug 7 #116

Of course nt Rob H. Aug 7 #31

Duh! malaise Aug 7 #40

Yes, And They End Up Causing Division Rubyshoo Aug 7 #49

Nah BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #51

There it is, that train is never late... Turk182 Aug 7 #53

Thank you for the example of the problem BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #55

Excuse me ? Turk182 Aug 7 #57

No person has "ownership" of a thread BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #58

WTF Turk182 Aug 7 #60

That's a shame... BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #64

Oh dear NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #66

Post removed Post removed Aug 7 #68

Post removed Post removed Aug 7 #81

OMG sarisataka Aug 7 #82

I'll bite. Turk182 Aug 7 #65

I'm not going to waste time in an extended thread BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #67

Wow. Turk182 Aug 7 #69

No he didn't "hijack it".. Hamas is part of Bush's history Cha Aug 7 #86

So you're fine with all that? yardwork Aug 7 #90

Interestingly enough, there is another "that train is never late" comment that applies. Behind the Aegis Aug 7 #91

I'm betting $10 you fail to see the irony on your making that assertion Torchlight Aug 7 #92

TY.. And you Didn't "hijack the thread" Hamas is part of Bush's History Cha Aug 7 #87

You appear to be trying equate Jewish Americans with AIPAC muriel_volestrangler Aug 7 #93

Uhhhhh BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #99

See, this is the problem. The 'I' in AIPAC stands for 'Israel'. There's no 'J' in it. muriel_volestrangler Aug 7 #100

Are you Jewish? NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #101

Are you? Celerity Aug 7 #103

Yes. BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #107

Number one, I am of partial Sephardic Jewish descent from my mum's side. Number two, do not EVER tell me to 'stay in my Celerity Aug 7 #111

There is no "of Jewish descent" BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #117

Of course there is. You asked the other poster (and apparently confused me with them) as if was was some sort of Celerity Aug 7 #120

So you're not Jewish, and you're lecturing Jews on what is Jewish. NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #121

For the second time, where did I lecture Jews on what is Jewish? This is the 2nd time you've falsely accused me of that. Celerity Aug 7 #122

Weasel words BrianTheEVGuy Aug 7 #123

Bollocks, & you refuse to show yet again your false accusations where I told/lectured anyone about what's Jewish. Celerity Aug 8 #125

Lanes are real BrianTheEVGuy Aug 8 #127

4 times now with made-up false, evidence-free accusations against me. Going for 5? Celerity Aug 8 #131

It's not about you BrianTheEVGuy Aug 8 #132

You have tried to re-write this entire colloquy Celerity Aug 8 #137

I think a big problem is Diraven Aug 7 #56

Is water wet? Sky Jewels Aug 7 #59

Kind of off topic, but growing up, my dad had a case of dehydrated water, on the side of the cans MarineCombatEngineer Aug 7 #61

That's kind of their whole purpose as an organization Bucky Aug 7 #70

Yes ibegurpard Aug 7 #72

Yes RandiFan1290 Aug 7 #77

I got called all kinds of vile shit for opposing that invasion TheKentuckian Aug 7 #106

This thread reminds me of that infamous cali OP. Mosby Aug 7 #78

Reminds me of H2O Man Aug 7 #79

Yep. yardwork Aug 7 #85

I can hear it sarisataka Aug 7 #83

What a ridiculous post. yardwork Aug 7 #84

Of course they do iemanja Aug 7 #112

Walt Starr H2O Man Aug 7 #115

Of course they are Bettie Aug 7 #89

"Is AIPAC trying to silence criticism of Israel?" Do bears..........? B.See Aug 7 #94

Obviously yes JanMichael Aug 7 #102

LOL. Iggo Aug 7 #104

Do birds fly? iemanja Aug 7 #110

Netanyahu has turned this into a binary choice... AntiFascist Aug 7 #114

Unfortunately, we don't get to make that choice. CincyDem Aug 8 #133

Netanyahu is highly dependent on military support from the US... AntiFascist Aug 8 #138

Yes, I do obamanut2012 Aug 8 #126

No RandySF Aug 8 #128

Nope. osteopath6 Aug 8 #129

Yes. They are Netinyahu's "influencers" FoxNewsSucks Aug 8 #130

AIPAC should be shunned. Shameful David__77 Aug 8 #134

Ya think? Bobstandard Aug 8 #136

"Is?" When have they not? Grins Aug 8 #139

"Thank you for your consideration, you will find the alert button below." JoseBalow Aug 8 #140

Might not be coming back from this one any time soon progree Aug 8 #142