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Aristus

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58. I agree.

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:18 PM

Dec 2012

I've said for a number of years, since right around the beginning of the Iraq War, in fact, that I tend to distrust massive overwhelming, histrionic displays of patriotic fervor. Not because I think they're insincere or disingenuous, but because they all seem to come with the same unspoken message: 'I am more patriotic than you, because look how loud I'm shouting about it.'

I think we can do better than that.

Thank you for your thoughtful words.

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Hey, Does Anyone Else Think We Kinda Respect the Military Too Much Maybe? [View all] Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 OP

I REALLY did not like what Stone did, but they should NOT have been fired. That's pretty much patrice Dec 2012 #1

+1 JoeyT Dec 2012 #7

That woman lost her job because she worked for a place that fires people regularly. MADem Dec 2012 #26

You are right. That also explains the rather unusual attack upon her & her friend. patrice Dec 2012 #42

The irony is that this placed is associated with a "hoity toity" private school that caters to MADem Dec 2012 #44

I worked for something like that for a couple of years. Our main job was to see to it that our patrice Dec 2012 #49

Generally, I don't think we respect the military "too much" brokechris Dec 2012 #2

I think we do respect too much, and I agree with you that in this situation Lionessa Dec 2012 #3

How can we respect people who are willing to give their lives JDPriestly Dec 2012 #4

I stand by JDPriestly. Promethean Dec 2012 #5

Thanks, Promethean (for your service & for your honesty)... Ghost Dog Dec 2012 #39

Absolutely. We don't respect our sailors and soldiers at all, but we worship the military, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #6

Exactly. People over expensive weapons. Serve our Veterans after they have served, we don't bluestate10 Dec 2012 #46

Exactly. How we treat them is another in a long line of national embarrassments. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #48

Yeah, and I am tired of hearing Rachel Maddow crow about them. Bonobo Dec 2012 #8

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #30

+1 n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #33

I find all forms of hero worship to be sickening. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #9

No. Especially considering that for all intents and purposes, we live in a Police State. DeSwiss Dec 2012 #10

Yep, it has become a 'soft' police state and on its way with just the right mix of TPTB to RKP5637 Dec 2012 #31

Thank you. DeSwiss Dec 2012 #53

Yep, very lonely, very lonely indeed! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #54

Empire Godot51 Dec 2012 #11

I am anti-war, thus I am pro-soldier Union Scribe Dec 2012 #12

There's a big difference between the military machine-which is a part of the corporations hobbit709 Dec 2012 #13

Americans are taught to respect and defer to authority too much. Selatius Dec 2012 #14

Extremely well said! And in our new culture of STUPID many just don't care to see RKP5637 Dec 2012 #32

In A Related Issue... WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #15

I could not agree more. SQUEE Dec 2012 #25

Common to every authoritarian militaristic regime in modern history. Any of those articles you Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #47

TLDR (nt) harmonicon Dec 2012 #16

Feeding the war machine and respecting those who serve are two different things. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #17

Yep, and AlexSatan Dec 2012 #27

Regardless, they should NOT get more time to vote Patiod Dec 2012 #18

We need to shrink the military till dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #19

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #20

It's not respect, it's an overreaction to poutrage JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #21

Ok, I looked but could not find why singing is banned at the Parthenon. lonestarnot Dec 2012 #28

It seemed dumb at the time JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #55

Of course, and the sign didn't say the crap may collapse on you if you sing LOL. Glad nothing lonestarnot Dec 2012 #61

Why are soldiers any more important than coal miners? Logical Dec 2012 #22

I believe you need to snip. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #23

My local town does a great job of playing favorites. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #24

My one gripe is the Military has become a huge money maker in this country and abroad. And often RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29

I don't. No special status, respect or automatic hero tag as far as I'm concerned. bowens43 Dec 2012 #34

Can you ever respect anyone too much? sarisataka Dec 2012 #35

It's a bogus and dangerous way for the left to find common cause w. the right. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #36

I wouldn't even say it is the military in this case treestar Dec 2012 #37

I respect soldiers who are soldiers for the right reasons.... lastlib Dec 2012 #38

Hmm no we don't nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #40

There are many in the military that I have absolutely no respect for. progressoid Dec 2012 #41

As a member of a Navy family I say slackmaster Dec 2012 #43

You mean the military that played vital support roles Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #45

+1000 Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #57

Yes; extreme nationalism, torture camps, wars for profit, huge chunk of GDP just1voice Dec 2012 #50

My father and my uncle and their wives are buried at Arlington. The young woman southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #51

Respect is one thing; and a good thing. But I think we have come to fetishize our military. Aristus Dec 2012 #52

Exactly this FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #56

I agree. Aristus Dec 2012 #58

We were just as militaristic before WWII Nevernose Dec 2012 #60

Have a source for that chart/list? dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #65

Here it is Nevernose Dec 2012 #67

Just now saw your post, thanks for the link - nt dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #68

It's not respect that's the problem; it's glorification. alarimer Dec 2012 #59

Exactly loyalsister Dec 2012 #66

Knee-jerk reaction for too many SoCalDem Dec 2012 #62

Nnnnnnnnnope cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #63

Way too much thoughtless jingoism, IMO. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #64