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HiPointDem

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39. That is state ownership and management of the means of production. The author
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:57 AM
Dec 2012

is making his own definitions.

State socialism doesn't mean the state owns *everything*. Nor does it mean that the state doles out everything & the population owns no personal property. It means minimally that the state owns/runs key industries.

Nor is state socialism the only kind of socialism.

Nor do hutterites have a 'state,' in fact they are anti-state christian anarchists.

k&r nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #1
I get weird looks when people find out I belong to the ACLU. Always a WTF moment for me. Like RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2
Side effect of us slipping into the dark ages Hydra Dec 2012 #7
Yep, I often think back about the same, and here they are, making it just just like "them" they RKP5637 Dec 2012 #21
Kick to find it later n/t hootinholler Dec 2012 #3
Believe it or not, in this day and age, Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #4
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #5
Unfortunately, many Americans think with their emotions and those emotions are 70 percent erroneous. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #6
100% spot on. DireStrike Dec 2012 #8
Oh, this rings a bell. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #9
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #10
I went through my grandfather's drawers and found out he was a member of the Socialist Party -LOL LeftInTX Dec 2012 #11
They Really Believe they are the Majority.. redstatebluegirl Dec 2012 #12
You think that is bad. SkyIsGrey Dec 2012 #13
Five years ago I was having a discussion at Thanksgiving with my family on how I thought Cleita Dec 2012 #14
No wonder some people hate holiday gatherings. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #41
Went through four years of college in a so called Christian school being called a socialist. I jwirr Dec 2012 #15
Everyone in the MILITARY, using the taxpayer subsidized PX and TRICARE are SOCIALISTS! nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #16
America As A Whole, And 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #17
It's worse than you say. I did look for the proper definitions in Google, and those bastards jtuck004 Dec 2012 #24
Great article. silverweb Dec 2012 #18
State socialism (Communism) can only work small scale of no more than 150 people ErikJ Dec 2012 #19
Do you have any evidence to support that claim? white_wolf Dec 2012 #22
Hutterites, Dunbar's Number =150 ErikJ Dec 2012 #23
what do hutterites have to do with "state socialism"? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #27
I think he is making the mistake that for "state socialism" to work it would be based on altruism. white_wolf Dec 2012 #28
true. but my point was 'what is the "state" part of hutterites'? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #29
They are small "communist" group and their max size is 150 ErikJ Dec 2012 #30
what is the 'state' in their 'state socialism'? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #31
I was referring to pure definition ErikJ Dec 2012 #34
by the "state apparatus". what is the state apparatus of the hutterites? for that matter, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #35
The author claims that isnt socialism ErikJ Dec 2012 #38
That is state ownership and management of the means of production. The author HiPointDem Dec 2012 #39
On the third link there is an interesting rightwing/liberal comparison: loudsue Dec 2012 #40
People think my sweater is an awkward moment. RUMMYisFROSTED Dec 2012 #20
I read the article. I wish the author's friend had a blog, sounds like it would be instructive. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #25
If you can, catch the old movie "Son of Kong" 1933. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #26
lol. the sailors didn't know how to run the ship once the captains disappeared. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #32
I just tell people I'm a Socialist, a Liberal and a Progressive, and then talk right through... Systematic Chaos Dec 2012 #33
I had a kid in my class tell me socialism means you have to give your shirt away-- Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #36
Christianity: "And from him who takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt either." HiPointDem Dec 2012 #37
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