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I have never been so outraged and pissed at the Democratic Party than I am today. [View all] JohnSJ Jul 20 OP

The purple states democratic senators better jimfields33 Jul 20 #1

The media fails us every time ... ratings over people and democracy NotHardly Jul 20 #41

And I'm damn sick of it. Getting a lot of my info Joinfortmill Jul 20 #92

The next show that has carville on will get an email from me BonnieJW Jul 20 #70

It can be fixed Tweedy Jul 20 #130

Let's avoid blaming the entire Democratic Party ChicagoRonin Jul 20 #2

You are right, and I hope they can save us from those fool hardy elements who thought this "asking Biden to step aside" JohnSJ Jul 20 #14

I call them hand-wringers in my barely polite letters to my senator. CrispyQ Jul 20 #24

The "Democan'ts"? ChicagoRonin Jul 20 #66

Sounds good to me! BComplex Jul 20 #124

Silence is assent dickthegrouch Jul 20 #88

That's right, the largest majority of Dems are still firmly ridin' with Biden PortTack Jul 20 #91

#MeToo BoRaGard Jul 20 #3

That's how I feel! StarryNite Jul 20 #6

This is how I feel right now! redstatebluegirl Jul 20 #35

My avatar shows how pissed off I am. BigmanPigman Jul 20 #112

Like it or not, many in Congress and in the public watched the debate and formed their own opinion. LonePirate Jul 20 #4

No, that could have be countered, with his travel schedule, he was under the weather etc. Instead some brilliant minds JohnSJ Jul 20 #9

Travel schedule? He returned from Italy on June 15 for a debate on June 27 with a week of prep time at Camp David. LonePirate Jul 20 #17

I am not proving anything, what you are saying is let's go JohnSJ Jul 20 #26

It is not a talking point for people on the left who watched the debate. They are not imagining this. LonePirate Jul 20 #29

The "people on the left", the progressive caucus, are the ones supporting Biden, the JohnSJ Jul 20 #62

Biden had a really bad night stopdiggin Jul 20 #104

That's peachy. What do they expect to accomplish by this circus. Biden is not dropping out, and HE IS GOING TO BE THE JohnSJ Jul 20 #121

no argument stopdiggin Jul 20 #143

I understand JohnSJ Jul 20 #144

Well from a purely PR view Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #150

Really? Tweedy Jul 20 #37

+++ JohnSJ Jul 20 #126

Yes he returned from Europe on June 15th and went directly to California MacKasey Jul 20 #38

How many days after that fundraiser was the debate? 10? 11? LonePirate Jul 20 #43

You are skipping over the fact that it was one bad night edisdead Jul 20 #53

Exactly..I guess those that refuse to have our president's back over one bad debate would prefer to push PortTack Jul 20 #94

Nope. saying that the 'Presidential travel' thing stopdiggin Jul 20 #110

Do you remember this, where it was, and the date of it? BumRushDaShow Jul 20 #93

You're aslo skipping the fact that his team were WRONG bluestarone Jul 20 #136

Especially now that Clooney has turned on him too Bayard Jul 20 #108

No mention Katcat Jul 20 #44

Smartest thing he ever did. jimfields33 Jul 20 #51

When your opposition is tearing itself apart, don't interrupt ..... nt kelly1mm Jul 20 #139

Have you ever crossed 9 time zones in a few days? Tweedy Jul 20 #48

There was an OP here yesterday about how long it can take to recover niyad Jul 20 #61

As A Routine International Traveler... ProfessorGAC Jul 20 #73

I merely pointed out the study that was quoted. And adding, as you niyad Jul 20 #138

Those 10 days in Camp David... he was still President of the United States. And answerable for Srkdqltr Jul 20 #101

You forgot the George Clooney fundraiser in LA Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #149

These excuses make the hole deeper rather than filling it in. TheKentuckian Jul 20 #96

IMO, Biden could use better advisors. CrispyQ Jul 20 #30

I didn't like him talking about the young woman jimfields33 Jul 20 #50

I watched the debate Tweedy Jul 20 #33

"Lying is disqualifying." Tell it to the media... dchill Jul 20 #64

No doubt about it Tweedy Jul 20 #100

Luckily, it is a very small minority, certainly NOT many, who are lying to themslves... Think. Again. Jul 20 #55

NO, STOP. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DEBATE! EastBayGuy Jul 20 #59

Ok. What's it about then? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 20 #99

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree - what you are saying about Biden's poor debate performance is true, but PatrickforB Jul 20 #77

Nicely written. Erda Jul 21 #148

Unfortunately, these are the images we will see in future GOP ads: JohnnyRingo Jul 20 #83

Thanks! Algernon Moncrieff Jul 20 #98

NOBODY ...wants Trump as President in 2025........... Stuart G Jul 20 #132

People get happy feet Jul 20 #117

You have 15 recommends for this post, including one from me. Doodley Jul 20 #142

Yep, democrats should be campaigning against Trump. LisaL Jul 20 #5

Oligarchs are pressuring them. Time for immunity powers methinks. GreenWave Jul 20 #7

Well, it's not "us". It is the ASSHOLES, especially BIG MONEY ASSHOLES, doing this. FOR SHAME! Deek1935 Jul 20 #8

It's sickening. My wife is probably sick of hearing Emile Jul 20 #10

I agree. texasfiddler Jul 20 #11

I keep thinking about that quote too! Tweedy Jul 20 #52

There had better be some heavy-duty backpedaling on the part of certain legislators Ocelot II Jul 20 #12

And you know they would be fighting non stop if Biden were to actually step aside, LisaL Jul 20 #13

I only hope those who didn't fall into this trap can pull us out of it. JohnSJ Jul 20 #18

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Could you share a little about these old guys? nt Phoenix61 Jul 20 #46

You know, all those old guys w dementia who have a masterful grasp of global politics. emulatorloo Jul 20 #75

Honestly Katcat Jul 20 #47

I'm beginning to wonder Tree Lady Jul 20 #54

Your anger will pass. I trust Democrats. If they want Joe to be replaced Autumn Jul 20 #15

I am really ashamed of those so-called leaders coming out pestering Joe to drop out. However, I am proud Walleye Jul 20 #16

They don't believe he can win, if they believed he coundn't handle the job they would demand he RESIGN krawhitham Jul 20 #19

This has gone on long enough. Joe either needs to step aside or the entire party needs to get behind him....NOW! beaglelover Jul 20 #20

All he has to do is set the direction. Baitball Blogger Jul 20 #22

Again, if Joe were to step aside, that would only result in more fighting. LisaL Jul 20 #23

I don't think it will lead to as much infighting as you fear. musicblind Jul 20 #107

We all wish we could put a stop to this nonsense. But...President Biden is doing what he should do PortTack Jul 20 #102

He already said he's in at least a dozen times. It's the elected dems and media not listening FloridaBlues Jul 20 #128

From what I hear, the Clintons haven't been silent. Baitball Blogger Jul 20 #21

It is about the money in my opinion...we have tape recorded evidence...and I believe Adam Schiff has doomed any Demsrule86 Jul 20 #25

We were on our way to a landslide victory mcar Jul 20 #27

As indicated by what? People are now whole cloth spinning TheKentuckian Jul 20 #111

Oh, pardon me, I'm sure mcar Jul 20 #125

In what way do you feel your opinion was not "allowed" or in any way repressed? TheKentuckian Jul 20 #134

30 years ago The Bopper Jul 20 #28

what does *THE* most delicate body part have to do with anything? Skittles Jul 20 #141

Impotent rage here. redwitch Jul 20 #31

Agree mamacita75 Jul 20 #34

MAGAts will be rattling off the names of Dems who wanted him to drop onandup Jul 20 #42

And Trump's VP choice was comparing Trump to Hitler. LisaL Jul 20 #45

Of course we can, and are onandup Jul 20 #49

Me too ramapo Jul 20 #36

And if Biden were to step down, they will be fighting non stop about who should be replacing him. LisaL Jul 20 #39

Many of us--if not all--are frustrated, John peggysue2 Jul 20 #40

that's exactly what President Biden doing. He's a wise savvy politician PortTack Jul 20 #109

Republicans are cowards.. But Democrats are like cats Across-the-Desk Jul 20 #56

Agree republianmushroom Jul 20 #57

If they didn't believe Joe could win, they would not have bothered. 58Sunliner Jul 20 #58

Yep. cilla4progress Jul 20 #60

What will they do if he doesn't drop out? A question more for the politicians asking JohnSJ Jul 20 #69

Thank You for your post Baggies Jul 20 #63

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That isn't the point. What are they going to do when Biden is the nominee? JohnSJ Jul 20 #71

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Blame Steve Schmidt New Breed Leader Jul 20 #67

I suspect there are several people who have come up with this "brilliant" JohnSJ Jul 20 #81

Actually Schmidt has shifted and is now pushing against JRB, and probably the Dems. He not the whole story PortTack Jul 20 #105

Why would we follow Schmidt is beyond me. Because he is anti-trump doesn't mean he is pro Democratic JohnSJ Jul 20 #120

na. They may have hurt their own re-election Roc2020 Jul 20 #68

The problem isn't Biden voters, or even never trumpets, it is the independents that I think will win or lose the electio JohnSJ Jul 20 #84

The GOP is like herding sheep, Dan Jul 20 #72

You can herd cats by opening a can of tuna; they'll come running. Ocelot II Jul 20 #79

Putin's bdamomma Jul 20 #74

Nailed it! PortTack Jul 20 #103

So Putin got to Schiff and Brown? totodeinhere Jul 20 #114

You really think Putin soandso Jul 20 #137

"We don't need republicans to hurt us, we are doing quite a good job of it ourselves." DFW Jul 20 #78

and that is why this situation is so frustrating and infuriating JohnSJ Jul 20 #86

But why is, oh so predictively, "Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory," even a thing? NBachers Jul 20 #106

I really wish I could know who to be mad at. bullimiami Jul 20 #80

We have no choice. roamer65 Jul 20 #82

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The Democratic Party has the best interests of the American people at heart. musicblind Jul 20 #85

Just remember who they are and never let them forget it. Joinfortmill Jul 20 #87

You are preaching to the choir here for sure on that. JohnSJ Jul 20 #90

Ya those senators and congressional members are mot as smart as us oldmanlynn Jul 20 #95

Carville... GiqueCee Jul 20 #97

I agree with you a million times over. Vinca Jul 20 #113

It genuinely appears as if they want a brokered convention. And it appears on the surface to be led by a contingent Texin Jul 20 #115

We (on DU) can't get along anymore BunnyMcGee Jul 20 #116

Bookmarking. rzemanfl Jul 21 #147

I understand your anger. But, totodeinhere Jul 20 #118

The establishment Dems are handing the election to Trump Dopers_Greed Jul 20 #119

Yes, but the longer they keep this garbage going, the only thing it will accomplish is make the poll numbers worse. It JohnSJ Jul 20 #122

This is the worst I've seen in a long time. alarimer Jul 20 #123

You and me both. raccoon Jul 20 #127

I smell rethuglicans and thus Russian influence. Though we have plenty of oligarchs here and they are involved heavily captain queeg Jul 20 #129

"Never attribute to malice that which Xoan Jul 20 #131

Whether stupidity or malice means very little if the outcome is the same JohnSJ Jul 20 #133

Do you want fascism? Because this is how you get fascism. Initech Jul 20 #135

Well said. mzmolly Jul 20 #140

"they don't believe he can handle the job" Martin Eden Jul 21 #145

A Grateful Nation, FeelingBlue Jul 21 #146

I called Bennett, Hickenloper and Crow, told them Hotler Jul 21 #151

I called Bennet and Hickenlooper too mountain grammy Jul 21 #152

I would be mad at the New York Times wolfie001 Jul 21 #153

First I want to say I will vote for whoever is the democratic nominee TheDemsshouldhireme Jul 21 #154