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JoeyT

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25. Rock on dude.

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:51 AM

Dec 2012

The only thing educating rapists with a seminar could accomplish is to expand what entitled young guys think of as rape. (e.g. sex with a passed out woman, even if she drank herself unconscious rather than being drugged.) It might not lower incidences of stranger or violent rape, but it could conceivably lower acquaintance rape rates.

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Here's why I haven't posted a god-damned thing about rape this week: [View all] Mister Ed Dec 2012 OP

Well said. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1

+1 freshwest Dec 2012 #4

Thank you. Brickbat Dec 2012 #2

A Talking Horse could not have said it any better RobertEarl Dec 2012 #3

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #57

You lost me at ... GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #5

I read that part given the qualification prior to that sentence salin Dec 2012 #8

This is the thing Tsiyu Dec 2012 #14

Good points. We need clear boundaries. WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #19

we had a slew of self-congratulatory posts from men who learned these things, and they never really bettyellen Dec 2012 #37

These young men are misogynists lbrtbell Dec 2012 #65

1 in 5 boys, 1 in 3 girls know sexual abuse aka rape Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #71

thank you SemperEadem Dec 2012 #73

I guess part of what I've been learning has to do with that. Mister Ed Dec 2012 #81

Your post made me exhale a breath I didn't know I was holding. Squinch Dec 2012 #6

same reaction for me. salin Dec 2012 #9

Every time I learn I only feel ashamed. leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #7

rape during war, or after war in revenge - are horrific. salin Dec 2012 #10

Rape is a war crime under the ICC mythology Dec 2012 #16

Thank You! n/t sheshe2 Dec 2012 #11

Thank you for opening that door UtahLib Dec 2012 #12

Just: Tsiyu Dec 2012 #13

You have no idea how femrap Dec 2012 #15

Thank you. MadrasT Dec 2012 #17

I've never felt at risk of rape either . . . MrModerate Dec 2012 #18

"Urges" don't usually determine whether a person rapes. WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #23

"Urges" covers a lot of territory, and I meant it to . . . MrModerate Dec 2012 #29

Well, two places where "rape and child abuse" thucythucy Dec 2012 #53

I too have never in my fifty plus years had to worry about getting raped, but excringency Dec 2012 #20

I don't have much to say here Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #21

Great post! Thank you. yardwork Dec 2012 #22

Which do you think would be more productive: Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #24

Wouldn't it make more sense to teach men/boys mzteris Dec 2012 #31

"You sound like an apologist." More DU hysteria. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #47

I think you hit the nail on the head Major Nikon Dec 2012 #54

Lets put it this way mzteris Dec 2012 #89

You are suggesting things I never claimed and never would Major Nikon Dec 2012 #90

Hysteria? mzteris Dec 2012 #88

How would you do that? spigerpid Dec 2012 #91

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #92

increase respect for women mzteris Dec 2012 #94

this either/ or thing has got to go. Educating our youth is key. bettyellen Dec 2012 #41

The sign in question (in the opening post) demands either/or. Tell her. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #46

I didn't read that sign that way at all gollygee Dec 2012 #51

If you want to fixate on (how YOU read) the sign or semantic bettyellen Dec 2012 #56

I said nothing of the kind or anything similar. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #63

It has been a long quest for her Gore1FL Dec 2012 #69

Ha ha, the hysterical woman trope. Being on to your BS bettyellen Dec 2012 #75

Oh, fuck. Now you trot out this meme. booorrrrinnnnggg! Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #84

The sign doesn't say either/or Tsiyu Dec 2012 #93

Why is there only one class to be taught? jeff47 Dec 2012 #45

Why did the woman with the poster say that "don't rape" should be taught INSTEAD? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #48

She's asking WHY this is society's default position! Kind of obvious to me. bettyellen Dec 2012 #58

Rock on dude. JoeyT Dec 2012 #25

acquaintance rapes are like 85%, and you post like lowering the rate is an afterthought. bettyellen Dec 2012 #36

Very good point. JoeyT Dec 2012 #38

Thank you. Many girls and boys are lacking education, and they are mired in confusion caused by bettyellen Dec 2012 #39

Maybe they should make rape illegal Eyes of the World Dec 2012 #26

You "don't have any care of " the 30% of rape victims that are under 11 years. Yet you expect people bettyellen Dec 2012 #34

Actually, this kind of "group-think" is why I donate to DU. Be part of the solution. WheelWalker Dec 2012 #35

Actually everyone hasn't heard. JoeyT Dec 2012 #40

Dude's for education! Great post bettyellen Dec 2012 #44

How very sad that you have no care for anyone elses pain. UtahLib Dec 2012 #43

let's just say, mzteris Dec 2012 #95

Thanks for the heads up. I've been lurking longer than I've been posting. UtahLib Dec 2012 #96

I don't think it is "ugly anti male sentiment" that is spreading across DU etherealtruth Dec 2012 #78

THANK YOU! zabet Dec 2012 #27

thank you. SheilaT Dec 2012 #28

What a kind and caring man. That is lovely. nt Chemisse Dec 2012 #79

Thank you. mzteris Dec 2012 #30

k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #32

Please consider joining in and modeling behavior supportive of a true dialog next time. bettyellen Dec 2012 #33

thank you. mercuryblues Dec 2012 #42

K&R and thank you. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #49

Yep. nt bemildred Dec 2012 #50

That's a very reasonable perspective. Zorra Dec 2012 #52

idea for the proposed 'don't rape' seminar Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #55

How do you suppose women do this mercuryblues Dec 2012 #59

Just saying, there is such a thing, not quite like a gun in a vagina, but close enough. Neoma Dec 2012 #85

+1 mercuryblues Dec 2012 #86

It probably would work only to a point. Neoma Dec 2012 #87

thank you n/t TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #60

Thank you. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #61

you teared me up mr. ed. you seabeyond Dec 2012 #62

Beautiful post. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #64

Do you limit all topics to those with personal experience? treestar Dec 2012 #66

wow heaven05 Dec 2012 #67

Thank you n/t ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #68

Tone of humility in a DU post. grantcart Dec 2012 #70

Yet the republicans continue their dastardly efforts to legitimatize aka legalize rape Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #72

Thank you so much etherealtruth Dec 2012 #74

Hear, hear! Thank You. k&r Little Star Dec 2012 #76

Your post made me cry. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #77

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #80

There appears to be a lot you do not know bettyellen Dec 2012 #83

Thank you, Mr. Ed. And for all the rest of you guys... Raksha Dec 2012 #82