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84. Well it certainly would give Harris a big momentum boost

Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:29 PM

Jul 18

I think "MUST" is vastly overstating this, but I do think it would give her extra points in November.

Incumbency is very powerful.

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Lichtman: If Biden bows out of the race, he must CONCURRENTLY RESIGN THE PRESIDENCY [View all] TasminCat Jul 18 OP

That's a pretty random and baseless pronouncement. Scrivener7 Jul 18 #1

He is either fit or he isn't. Gore1FL Jul 18 #27

If he's not running he's also a lame duck AZSkiffyGeek Jul 18 #38

I doubt we'll ever see a 25th amendment. Considering Reagan was massively.. yourout Jul 18 #113

I would say "massively" Polybius Jul 19 #121

You need to get the context... regnaD kciN Jul 18 #33

Yeah, a 100-day incumbency is hardly an advantage. brush Jul 18 #88

Outcome based on political science data modeling Tweedy Jul 18 #108

Lichtman is a Historian and US Presidential Elections Expert. D23MIURG23 Jul 19 #120

That would be the only reasonable alternative. Elessar Zappa Jul 18 #2

I agree, it is the only way to do it that makes sense. Irish_Dem Jul 18 #12

Signed: LBJ speak easy Jul 18 #89

I agree, he will do what is best for the American people. Irish_Dem Jul 18 #90

... in 1968 we only had to worry about Nixon speak easy Jul 18 #118

Who would become VP if that happens? QED Jul 18 #3

The veep slot would stay open, making a republican next in line. unblock Jul 18 #15

And if Mike Johnson were to become president, he'd be pressured to name Trump as VP, then resign. highplainsdem Jul 18 #24

OH, DO NOT EVEN HINT AT THAT HORRIBLE THOUGHT!! riversedge Jul 18 #56

No. former9thward Jul 18 #95

Geezus. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 18 #43

RSO rso Jul 18 #87

I mean, if Biden were to resign, Harris becomes president, the house refuses to confirm any vice-president unblock Jul 18 #94

RSO rso Jul 18 #96

I certainly hope so. But these donors seem hell bent on killing any chance of that.... unblock Jul 18 #97

The 25th Amendment provides for a replacement vice president Glorfindel Jul 18 #59

But the nomination is the problem, right? Alice B. Jul 18 #63

Or after. (IMHO.) So no way to break ties in the Senate. deurbano Jul 18 #80

After wouldn't matter if she wins Polybius Jul 19 #122

I meant from now until January 20. deurbano Jul 19 #123

And Mike Johnson is going to hold that vote, right? Nt carpetbagger Jul 18 #71

Even if he held the vote, they have the majority, and have already shredded every norm... deurbano Jul 18 #76

GRASSLEY. GOP won't allow a new vp Captain Zero Jul 18 #77

good point! GreenWave Jul 18 #79

I think it would be Sen. Patty Murray as Pro Temp N/T Big Blue Marble Jul 18 #91

Lichtman has called every president election winner for decades delisen Jul 18 #101

He has not made his prediction for this election cycle my_best_self Jul 18 #112

Thanks for the correction. nt delisen Jul 18 #114

The new VP would have to be confirmed by house and senate FloridaBlues Jul 18 #99

If Biden leaves, Fox and the MAGAs will be shitting on us like there's no tomorrow. Initech Jul 18 #4

they already are. I feel shat upon. NoSheep Jul 18 #10

Yes. From both directions. ms liberty Jul 18 #30

Yes, from both directions and that's the shittiest part about it. StarryNite Jul 18 #34

Agree. debm55 Jul 18 #62

I don't care what Fox and the MAGAs do. TwilightZone Jul 18 #16

Just to match his keys sky_masterson Jul 18 #5

SMH SunsetDreams2 Jul 18 #6

Is this part of his 13 keys? Autumn Jul 18 #7

The incumbent president being the incumbent party candidate is one of the keys, yes. However, unblock Jul 18 #22

It would certainly give her a boost. nt Autumn Jul 18 #26

deleted reply ._. Jul 18 #28

But according to the memo circulating among D "leaders" ._. Jul 18 #31

Damn! Dave says Jul 18 #41

Who are even the first two, again? Alice B. Jul 18 #64

Well, at least Whitmer could neutralize the big assassination attempt drama, by reminding everyone that she Sogo Jul 18 #75

That's A Sure Loss RobinA Jul 18 #8

Not voting is a vote for Trump. Elessar Zappa Jul 18 #23

No it's not. It's yourout Jul 18 #115

If you don't vote to cancel out a Republican vote, then that Trump vote prevails. SunSeeker Jul 18 #116

That is delusional thinking markpkessinger Jul 19 #125

Agree, if this is the way it has to go down. The Unmitigated Gall Jul 18 #9

And that is exactly why the donor class doesn't like him Bettie Jul 18 #36

While I don't disagree, this is speculation on his part unblock Jul 18 #11

Another new doom troll Basso8vb Jul 18 #13

WHAT ARE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I SAID I DON'T WANT BIDEN OUT. TasminCat Jul 18 #17

Ignore - you just got trolled but a new poster. jmbar2 Jul 18 #35

A sleeper from 2016. 😕 intheflow Jul 18 #37

Like the fifth I have seen today obamanut2012 Jul 18 #93

ARE WE ALLOWED TO POST COMMENTS FROM X OR NOT TasminCat Jul 18 #20

Pretty familiar with doom trolls for someone whose only posts were today AZSkiffyGeek Jul 18 #40

Boris Van Winkle . . . hatrack Jul 19 #124

Wait, you have been a member for almost a decade but have 3 posts? obamanut2012 Jul 18 #92

Biden should not bow out of the race. Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch. suegeo Jul 18 #14

I SAID I DON'T WANT HIM OUT. I SAID I DON'T WANT HIM OUT. DID YOU READ MY POST? TasminCat Jul 18 #21

You are so right..a give away, they continue to argue baselessly! PortTack Jul 18 #61

this guy changes his story newdayneeded Jul 18 #18

He's right according the Keys, but WILL NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN. And he knows that. Deek1935 Jul 18 #19

It would boost Kamala's profile, and she hasn't had a lot of media attention. She would be there when interest rates are Doodley Jul 18 #25

Yes PhilosopherKing Jul 18 #45

Biden just can't get out. Hang tough and MOMFUDSKI Jul 18 #29

NO! Happy Hoosier Jul 18 #32

Newbie Question Here: Rubyshoo Jul 18 #39

Good question, Rubyshoo Drummer1 Jul 18 #46

We will never know. DiamondShark Jul 18 #117

I may be mistaken, but doing so would only give KH one 4-year term. nt in2herbs Jul 18 #42

Would not apply... 2 year rule. carpetbagger Jul 18 #48

You are mistaken. Mr.Bill Jul 18 #53

I agree PhilosopherKing Jul 18 #44

Ridiculous AverageOldGuy Jul 18 #47

I said I don't want Biden out. But if he is out, what is wrong with empowering Kamala with the office of the President? TasminCat Jul 18 #50

I've been posting on DU for 20 years TasminCat Jul 18 #51

Since 2024 AverageOldGuy Jul 18 #58

since 2002. Since Dan Rather. TasminCat Jul 18 #110

How's this...your post is not helpful...can you accept that and stop? PortTack Jul 18 #65

I have a right to say what I want and I will TasminCat Jul 18 #109

I agree with this PhilosopherKing Jul 18 #49

Hmmmm, 79 posts Aviation Pro Jul 18 #52

And Kamala would not have a VP because the house is not going to approve of anyone Bev54 Jul 18 #54

TasminCat's profile info: calguy Jul 18 #55

Wouldn't the leader of the House duncang Jul 18 #57

RSO rso Jul 18 #85

I goofed up. duncang Jul 18 #100

RSO rso Jul 18 #86

Unnecessary claptrap and another OP on ignore. Where's my torch? I can't find my pitchfork. jaxexpat Jul 18 #60

Right behind ya! PortTack Jul 18 #66

Really? claudette Jul 18 #67

Lyndon Johnson only ran 1 term liberal N proud Jul 18 #68

If that were to happen... OldBaldy1701E Jul 18 #69

I'm with Middle-Class Joe 💪🏻 Miami Blue Jul 18 #70

Plan B would guarantee a Pedo Trump win Farmer-Rick Jul 18 #72

yeah. We can't give up the incumbency key ecstatic Jul 18 #73

No because gop won't allow a VP replacement Captain Zero Jul 18 #74

thank goodness for executive orders and official acts. ecstatic Jul 18 #78

*Ahem. *Cough *cough.* dchill Jul 18 #81

This has been floated many times Lifeafter70 Jul 18 #82

Huh? Why must he resign? An incumbency of 100 days for Ms Harris is hardly an advantage... brush Jul 18 #83

Well it certainly would give Harris a big momentum boost fescuerescue Jul 18 #84

If he steps down...The NEW VP would have to be confirmed by the majority of the house and senate FloridaBlues Jul 18 #98

This is questionable thinking, where he is going from a model that gives a point to incumbancy karynnj Jul 18 #102

Trashed orangecrush Jul 18 #103

Nah, she's part of the administration, that would be semantics. Plus the GOP will never vote on a VP is Biden resigns themaguffin Jul 18 #104

Here's the deal: returnee Jul 18 #105

That would literally be the only alternative to running ColinC Jul 18 #106

No. That is not how it works Hekate Jul 18 #107

What a mess if Schiff et al force Biden out and we have this VP issue, we deserve a VP! NowsTheTime Jul 18 #111

Hilarious! Iggo Jul 18 #119

What a bunch of nonsense Jarqui Jul 19 #126

Wiseowljedi wiseowljedi Jul 19 #127

Lichtman is correct but... kansasobama Jul 19 #128

When Ifs and Buts are candies and nuts, GOP will have a merry christmas. Torchlight Jul 19 #129