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pnwmom

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185. This was not an overreaction. The father probably avoided treatment because he knew
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:07 PM
Dec 2012

that he was breaking the law allowing his son to shoot the bb gun in the city.

Bet they don't have health insurance riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #1
That was my first thought too PD Turk Nov 2012 #3
OMG, kidney stones! That can be very painful. I only had one once and it passed on its own. I guess RKP5637 Nov 2012 #4
Lemonade PD Turk Nov 2012 #9
I never knew that, good information to know!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #11
What did your Doc tell you regarding breaking up stones? I've had many. Tess49 Dec 2012 #28
I and several friends who had severe kidney stones started drinking 1-2 large glasses of water dae Dec 2012 #152
Thanks for the information. I will try this. n/t Tess49 Dec 2012 #267
What few tips did he give you? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #57
no health insurance here.... Maine-ah Dec 2012 #146
Yea, well I see your self-doctored and self-medicated Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #7
i bet so too. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #37
my thought also Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #145
I bet the father knew he was breaking local law by allowing the discharge of a BB gun pnwmom Dec 2012 #188
So a father acts in a non-emergency way over a non-emergency injury, Lionessa Nov 2012 #2
the boy is 12 CreekDog Nov 2012 #6
+1 proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #14
Which answers absolutely nothing of what I asked or commented on. Lionessa Dec 2012 #22
likewise, neither would the input of a 12 year old on the appropriateness of home-medical care CreekDog Dec 2012 #24
You misunderstand, if the child was in pain or anything like that, but Lionessa Dec 2012 #27
taking a utility knife to a kid's scalp as proper care of an injured 12 year old? CreekDog Dec 2012 #29
It was a very stupid thing to do. But I'm not sure its CPS worthy material. phleshdef Dec 2012 #30
maybe the father had no choice, since he couldn't drive the kid due to being drunk CreekDog Dec 2012 #31
I can't drive you to the hospital, the bartender took my car keys JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #63
Exactly. It's not rocket science, but OTOH it might not even be necessary. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #68
The father's digging into the scalp with a utility knife probably put the boy pnwmom Dec 2012 #190
My brother actually reattached an ear with the dog stapler... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #142
fecking hardcore PABigDaddyDemocrat Dec 2012 #179
It's against the law to discharge a BB gun in the city limits. That alone is a CPS issue. pnwmom Dec 2012 #189
Utility could mean any number of types of kniives, and Lionessa Dec 2012 #33
Mineral Man defended a poster who considered raising a child like training a puppy CreekDog Dec 2012 #38
Some aspects of animal training do in fact work well for young children. Lionessa Dec 2012 #72
If it was just in the skin, I don't think it's such a big deal. Chemisse Dec 2012 #102
"Mineral Man defended a poster who considered raising a child like training a puppy" Shining Jack Dec 2012 #131
No, it's not "beyond the pale" - that's just your opinion demwing Dec 2012 #162
Said by somepne who has never had a scalp injury obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #44
Depends on the injury, scalps really don't hurt much after the initial strike. Lionessa Dec 2012 #76
I have had a scalp wound. They can bleed like crazy. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #200
Scalp injuries hurt like hell? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #81
I've had a few stitches placed in my scalp too Aerows Dec 2012 #169
Neither do I... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #171
I don't know the pain threshold for 12 year olds though. vaberella Dec 2012 #192
I was once a twelve year old Aerows Dec 2012 #195
The reason scalp wounds Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #218
I've had a recent scalp injury demwing Dec 2012 #161
Foot pain Aerows Dec 2012 #170
Hello...he's a 12 year old child. Not a grown ass man or woman. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #193
Seriously, scalp pain is minor Aerows Dec 2012 #196
The father wasn't successful in digging out the BB, so it must have been fairly deep. pnwmom Dec 2012 #205
You're comparing a bb gun pellet to hair dye? You're kidding me right? n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #263
It "must?" There are no other explanations? /nt demwing Dec 2012 #228
The father dug into his scalp with a knife. If the scalp needed digging into, pnwmom Dec 2012 #183
I know, lots of folks like to overreact to small injuries, Lionessa Dec 2012 #186
I'm surprised to hear otherwise sensible people defending parents who ignore city law pnwmom Dec 2012 #199
I'm surprised to hear otherwise sensible people reading only the headlines and sketchy details demwing Dec 2012 #229
he cut Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #217
Doesn't answer a damn thing demwing Dec 2012 #120
i didn't weigh in on the CPS action --i have been arguing what the dad did was stupid & dangerous CreekDog Dec 2012 #124
When I was that age mythology Dec 2012 #20
we have flesh eating bacteria now, cutting is best left to the professionals CreekDog Dec 2012 #32
Problem is. . . there likelihood of acquiring MRSA is huge at a hospital compared to Lionessa Dec 2012 #34
a doctor at a home might be safer but not some dope with a utility knife CreekDog Dec 2012 #36
We didn't lead sheltered lives Confusious Dec 2012 #71
My second ex-hub shot himself through Lionessa Dec 2012 #78
I still got a divot in the muscle in the back of my leg Confusious Dec 2012 #80
But he went to see a doctor about it? Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #220
taking the child to the ER makes him sheltered? CreekDog Dec 2012 #173
For a minor cut, yea. nt Confusious Dec 2012 #213
it's not a minor cut, it was an embedded BB CreekDog Dec 2012 #219
If you're going to be a jerk, Confusious Dec 2012 #222
I've had a 45 go through my leg Confusious Dec 2012 #223
I know, I don't get this outrage Aerows Dec 2012 #197
you assume people are crazy because they don't agree with you? demwing Dec 2012 #121
As it turned out, no utility knive was used. MineralMan Dec 2012 #129
And as it turned out, the surgery was unsuccessful. So it couldn't have been that superficial. pnwmom Dec 2012 #212
Well, I have change my vote then Confusious Dec 2012 #215
No, we just don't wig out and make huge deals out of little accidents... snooper2 Dec 2012 #163
wrong obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #45
*cough* X_Digger Dec 2012 #58
You're overly concerned. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #111
we're talking about cutting a hole big enough in a kid to get a bb out CreekDog Dec 2012 #113
That's a pretty small hole, and there's already one where MineralMan Dec 2012 #130
if I try to make you guys sound ridiculous, you always outdo me CreekDog Dec 2012 #132
OMG! A BB is about 4.5mm (less, actually) demwing Dec 2012 #165
You FAIL when you say, "it's a small hole" CreekDog Dec 2012 #172
well good thing I didn't say that then, right? demwing Dec 2012 #227
I agree.... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #104
I had two prongs of a treble hook in the back of my head learning to overhead cast as a kid. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #147
Any father should know that a doctor should treat a head wound, and that antibiotics pnwmom Dec 2012 #182
Your theories have not shown to be Lionessa Dec 2012 #184
I had a staple rip a gash in my finger once Confusious Dec 2012 #262
Here's a WA state health department that recommends a tetanus booster after an injury. pnwmom Dec 2012 #265
The finger gash was 20 years ago, Confusious Dec 2012 #266
Exactly. Non-emergency way Aerows Dec 2012 #194
wrong- see post #242 elias7 Dec 2012 #243
absolutely wrong elias7 Dec 2012 #242
There was no skull penetration. Ms. Toad Dec 2012 #248
Probably needed a leatherman... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #5
Some "doctor" you are... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #98
Can you explain what you mean here? noamnety Dec 2012 #128
generally quoted from MASH JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #136
Oh, look, it was a quote from MASH RetroLounge Dec 2012 #138
Reference quote from MASH (1970). JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #157
Yeah... if you carry your local paramedic in your pocket... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #141
He was inspired by the woman who painted Potato Jesus. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #8
Without insurance, a visit to the emergency room is very expensive. Kaleva Nov 2012 #10
I can understand that concern loyalsister Dec 2012 #21
If that BB came from an ordinary BB gun, MineralMan Dec 2012 #126
Was it not obvious to the man loyalsister Dec 2012 #134
Hmm...hard to say whether this rises to the arrest level. MineralMan Nov 2012 #12
Oh come on. This wasn't a finger. It was a HEAD. proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #15
It was also a BB. MineralMan Nov 2012 #17
you don't have any credibility on this CreekDog Dec 2012 #39
You went to DU2 to find that? MineralMan Dec 2012 #51
What's the problem with going to DU2? Shining Jack Dec 2012 #52
It's not DU that is the problem. It's going and looking MineralMan Dec 2012 #55
I never said that DU was the problem. Shining Jack Dec 2012 #59
Yeah, I find that sort of thing OVER A SILLY BB to be a bit creepy. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #100
A BB is a GUN PELLET obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #47
It is. It's a .177" diameter steel ball. MineralMan Dec 2012 #50
I had a friend end up with a BB in his brain. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #61
I've cut off skin tags before noamnety Dec 2012 #62
I remember a 2 year old here in my city being killed with a BB gun proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #156
It's a BB under the skin. Heck, I see feline patients all the time that have a BB or 2 in them that kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #69
You were lucky, my dad would have never wasted a fishing hook like that. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #82
There was no way that hook was going to MineralMan Dec 2012 #87
I was sort of kidding about saving the hook... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #110
Why is the boy in protective custody? From whom is he being protected?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #13
He's 12. That's why. proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #16
Again, from whom is he being protected? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #25
the dad/home surgeon with the utility knife CreekDog Dec 2012 #40
Thank you proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #42
I was kinda thinking the same demwing Dec 2012 #122
Yeah, god forbid he have children RetroLounge Dec 2012 #139
By all means, go barf demwing Dec 2012 #150
or your approval RetroLounge Dec 2012 #154
Yes, or my approval demwing Dec 2012 #160
I'm glad you can diagnose via DU postings RetroLounge Dec 2012 #166
And I am glad demwing Dec 2012 #167
Oh, you have no idea. RetroLounge Dec 2012 #198
Hmmm, that's sad demwing Dec 2012 #226
Hang in there. You'll be okay. RetroLounge Dec 2012 #261
No that didn't work demwing Dec 2012 #264
Guess it all depends on the capabilities of those involved. Thor_MN Dec 2012 #158
And something must have gone wrong. Or else why did he bring him pnwmom Dec 2012 #203
Like I said, depends on the capabilities of those involved. Thor_MN Dec 2012 #231
So, responding with an insulting comment is a good way to have a discussion?.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #164
He didn't have an umbrella. The bouillabaisse was salty. I like sandalwood. demwing Dec 2012 #125
I agree with you. woo me with science Nov 2012 #19
It doesn't make sense to me, either Aerows Dec 2012 #43
I agree. This is an over-reaction by the authoritehs. slackmaster Dec 2012 #53
I think a review of some of the replies here... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #88
The dad deserved a stern lecture from a physician. It needn't become an issue for government. slackmaster Dec 2012 #112
This was not an overreaction. The father probably avoided treatment because he knew pnwmom Dec 2012 #185
The father wasn't even home when the boy shot the gun slackmaster Dec 2012 #235
I agree. redqueen Dec 2012 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #137
It is KS. Cops sees the Devil Buddha and has to 'Save' the boy with Baby Jesus! Viking12 Dec 2012 #151
Nice regional slam. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #168
My step-father duct-taped the end of his finger back on. It was to the first knuckle. We spent Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #18
Ah, the real man Confusious Dec 2012 #74
Nanny state former-republican Dec 2012 #23
I just won bingo! obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #48
everyone's hitting BINGO this weekend on DU CreekDog Dec 2012 #214
Ah, home doctorin'. DUers got their share, I see. My Mom was good at that... Hekate Dec 2012 #26
Huh, are you sure about that last part, my son flipped himself backward off Lionessa Dec 2012 #35
Your son was the exception, rather than the rule. Ms. Toad Dec 2012 #41
Then perhaps it matters where on the scalp because, and bald men will agree Lionessa Dec 2012 #70
Male head hair doesn't work like cat's whiskers Confusious Dec 2012 #77
Well that's not what the ex or the many other baldies I've Lionessa Dec 2012 #83
I would think the exact same thing Confusious Dec 2012 #90
Hair may not be equivalent to whiskers, but it does Lionessa Dec 2012 #91
Yea, well it doesn't help me :) Confusious Dec 2012 #95
That may make a difference - Ms. Toad Dec 2012 #97
Scalp injuries are rarely bloody & ER docs used HAIR as sutures? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49
Here's a link for you.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #56
That's very interesting, X_Digger. I can't wait to try it next time one of my friends gets a gaping slackmaster Dec 2012 #67
Thank you X_Digger, that's twice in one thread, Lionessa Dec 2012 #89
de nada. X_Digger Dec 2012 #94
Yes indeed, standart practice for scalp injuries not requiring skull consideration. Lionessa Dec 2012 #75
Depends on the location, and yes, MineralMan Dec 2012 #92
I do actual surgery all the time and think that's incredibly CLEVER. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #101
agree - very clever! Kali Dec 2012 #239
A couple of months ago, I read the 1911 Boy Scout Handbook on MineralMan Dec 2012 #96
My scout handbook was still much the same into the 70's. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #148
Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Dec 2012 #46
Let's see.. things that my family 'doctored' for me.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #54
Guess we were raised in a different time. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #65
Flesh wounds? Confusious Dec 2012 #79
Well yeah... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #84
Different times and/or different cultures.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #85
My dad taught me how to make wound closing sutures from adhesive tape. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #93
Really? abelenkpe Dec 2012 #60
I don't have a problem with an investigation. It's their job. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #64
Yes, because they jump in with both jackbooted feet.... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #149
US healthcare system JVS Dec 2012 #66
Apparently the family involved is African-American. hedgehog Dec 2012 #86
Excellent questions. Ms. Toad Dec 2012 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #103
I stand corrected regarding the race of the family. hedgehog Dec 2012 #106
Perhaps an African-American father would be sitting in jail in the same situation slackmaster Dec 2012 #115
That's a great question slackmaster Dec 2012 #114
Why do you assume because they are AA that they don't have a pricier address? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #140
I looked at the video tape in the original link - all the neighbors interviewed hedgehog Dec 2012 #144
You are correct Shrek Dec 2012 #221
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #107
It wasn't in the skull. MineralMan Dec 2012 #109
Wow, so it wasn't the boy's father, rather the boy's father's friend slackmaster Dec 2012 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #118
I think Zeke is the boy's father's boyfriend, and the "girlfriend" is just a neighbor they asked... slackmaster Dec 2012 #119
I copied that headline from the article. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #143
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #153
No Surprise That Our Gun Enthusiasts Sided With The Dad, Here. Paladin Dec 2012 #108
Also No Surprise That Our Resident Authoritarians Sided With The State, Here, Sir. slackmaster Dec 2012 #117
obviously the safety of a 12 year old boy is secondary to a dad's god-given right to be a stupid ass CreekDog Dec 2012 #123
That's a classic false dilemma slackmaster Dec 2012 #159
well you just brought up a second reason to consider the dad a stupid ass CreekDog Dec 2012 #175
Sorry, sided with the dad Confusious Dec 2012 #133
Reply #107 has a completely different story gollygee Dec 2012 #127
The fact that there's more to the story doesn't lessen the need for CPS to get involved. pnwmom Dec 2012 #211
OK well if an adult and child were playing with a BB gun together like that gollygee Dec 2012 #216
Idiot! mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #135
and THIS is why rural people think urbanites are so frightening Kali Dec 2012 #155
thinking a kid should be seen by a doctor (ER or urgent care or whatever) is not "freaking out" CreekDog Dec 2012 #174
you are still whining about this? Kali Dec 2012 #176
you're still advocating that kids be treated like your livestock? CreekDog Dec 2012 #178
heaven forbid people show any common fucking sense Skittles Dec 2012 #177
common sense is using first aid when you can rather than running to the ER Kali Dec 2012 #181
................ Skittles Dec 2012 #187
... Kali Dec 2012 #191
Why did they wait so long to take him, after the "surgery" was unsuccessful? pnwmom Dec 2012 #204
What law are you referring to? /nt demwing Dec 2012 #224
This law: pnwmom Dec 2012 #225
Not what you said demwing Dec 2012 #232
The law prohibits the discharge of a BB gun. In this case, a BB gun was discharged. pnwmom Dec 2012 #233
Have you ever fired a BB gun? demwing Dec 2012 #238
IF that's what happened. But the nurse's aid who was asked to help out told a different story. pnwmom Dec 2012 #241
Yep, I do blame CPS demwing Dec 2012 #251
CPS didn't remove him from the home. Zeke's girlfriend did that, when she finally pnwmom Dec 2012 #254
They may have acted lawfully... demwing Dec 2012 #255
wait so long? wasn't it the next day? Kali Dec 2012 #234
fuck if I know why they "waited so long" it was only a day later Kali Dec 2012 #237
The nurse's aid who saw him after the injury thought he should see a doctor right pnwmom Dec 2012 #244
OMG YOU'LL PUT YOUR EYE OUT1!!!!11! Kali Dec 2012 #245
The CDC doesn't think this is a joke, and neither should any responsible adult. pnwmom Dec 2012 #247
thanks for looking that up, really Kali Dec 2012 #249
Would you say that if it was your pal who decided to take it upon himself to dig into pnwmom Dec 2012 #210
yes Kali Dec 2012 #236
Why do you think the father finally took the boy to the hospital? pnwmom Dec 2012 #202
Maybe he had to break down his meth lab first? demwing Dec 2012 #230
What's that Billy? You shot yourself in the head with your BB gun? Iggy Dec 2012 #180
Why did the father finally take the boy to the hospital? Probably because the wound pnwmom Dec 2012 #201
nope. because the kid didn't tell the dad about it and not until the guy the kid... yawnmaster Dec 2012 #206
More recent reports say the father went to work on Thursday after he learned of the injury, pnwmom Dec 2012 #208
depends on the bb gun, but they don't make that much noise... yawnmaster Dec 2012 #257
Thanks for the info, yawnmaster. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #259
Signs of infection the day after doesn't prove it was infected the day before. tinrobot Dec 2012 #207
You are right. And since then there is more information pnwmom Dec 2012 #209
"Let's not start making assumptions here." Kali Dec 2012 #240
My ophthalmologist is strongly against spongy "Nerf" guns because of the eye damage he's seen. pnwmom Dec 2012 #252
nerf products are exactly what is wrong with people like you these days Kali Dec 2012 #256
You could be right. The father here and/or Zeke played with too many Nerf products, pnwmom Dec 2012 #258
i still got some fresh unclutched pearls datasuspect Dec 2012 #246
hahahahaha Kali Dec 2012 #250
Give a kid a BB gun and he will use it to kill songbirds Kolesar Dec 2012 #253
Why is this a child abuse case? It seems like he tried to help the boy but did it wrong. craigmatic Dec 2012 #260
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