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DreamGypsy

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42. In fact, an estrogen causes the sexual dimorphism of the brain...
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:26 PM
Dec 2012

In developing male fetuses, the immature testes produce testosterone, which is converted by the brain into estradiol; the presence of estradiol in the brain results in a 'male' brain pattern. In developing female fetuses, the absence of significant levels of testosterone/estradiol causes the brain to develop as a 'female' brain. The brain becomes sexually dimorphic during a critical period, or window of time, which in humans occurs during fetal development. From that point, the brain sex is determined for life; thus at puberty, circulating testosterone and estrogen act on a brain that is already sexually dimorphic.

From Wikipedia: Estradiol:

Estradiol (E2 or 17?-estradiol, also oestradiol) is a sex hormone. Estradiol is abbreviated E2 as it has two hydroxyl groups in its molecular structure. Estrone has one (E1) and estriol has three (E3). Estradiol is about 10 times as potent as estrone and about 80 times as potent as estriol in its estrogenic effect. Except during the early follicular phase of the menstrual cycle, its serum levels are somewhat higher than that of estrone during the reproductive years of the human female. Thus it is the predominant estrogen during reproductive years both in terms of absolute serum levels as well as in terms of estrogenic activity. During menopause, estrone is the predominant circulating estrogen and during pregnancy estriol is the predominant circulating estrogen in terms of serum levels. Estradiol is also present in males, being produced as an active metabolic product of testosterone. The serum levels of estradiol in males (14 - 55 pg/mL) are roughly comparable to those of postmenopausal women (< 35 pg/mL). Estradiol in vivo is interconvertible with estrone; estradiol to estrone conversion being favored. Estradiol has not only a critical impact on reproductive and sexual functioning, but also affects other organs, including the bones.


Whoda thunk it???

***KICK*** Odin2005 Dec 2012 #1
Thanks Odin. Good comparison. k&r Little Star Dec 2012 #2
You are welcome! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #3
I only get offended when they misquote everyone here is a misguided bid for sympathy. bettyellen Dec 2012 #4
Well, Just how much empathy should we have? cliffordu Dec 2012 #5
Who has said that? MineralMan Dec 2012 #6
Seek and ye shall find. cliffordu Dec 2012 #13
Link & I'll look. MineralMan Dec 2012 #26
I have long admired you and your stances, MM, and I consider you a friend cliffordu Dec 2012 #43
Which means you got nothing Tsiyu Dec 2012 #46
You are most certainly not. The way your phrases are constructed cliffordu Dec 2012 #53
You would be wrong Tsiyu Dec 2012 #55
Could be the most passive aggressive reply cliffordu Dec 2012 #58
I don't think that phrase means what you think it means. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #70
For me the most telling thing about your post thucythucy Dec 2012 #76
I'm glad that is so telling... The Doctor. Dec 2012 #95
Yesterday I remember seeing am post by a female DUer... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #7
I have read the rape threads,no one has sufrommich Dec 2012 #15
I had the same thougt... where did that come from? salin Dec 2012 #25
Thank you. Cliffordu creates a straw man of Brobdignagian proportions, the coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #68
Please link to a post where a DUer has Tsiyu Dec 2012 #35
You seem a bit defensive. Deep13 Dec 2012 #49
That's quite an accusation. Please link to an example. yardwork Dec 2012 #60
Hyperbole much??? cliffordu Dec 2012 #64
You seem to be falling off the rails. yardwork Dec 2012 #74
Not a smear, Yardwork is right -- provide a link obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #82
Here's a good starting point: Heidi Dec 2012 #73
No one has said that obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #80
So, someone being a creeper and hitting on someone in a bar is okay obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #81
Thanks Odin. redqueen Dec 2012 #8
This is exactly why I think we guys need to take a course on this stuff. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #10
What the fuck is this shit? unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #12
Chazz Bono has stated something very similar obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #17
Oh, I'm so sorry, then. unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #19
Unlimited facepalms. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #36
yes!! excellent idea. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #47
Yes, that is axactly what I said obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #83
i am going with you on this one. do they say it cause it is expected from conditioning, and they seabeyond Dec 2012 #92
True, but... TM99 Dec 2012 #65
exactly. there are studies that refute this conditioned perception. it is getting society to seabeyond Dec 2012 #93
I don't care if Mr. Rogers said it Major Nikon Dec 2012 #96
Except I never said that obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #102
No, but you did appear to defend it Major Nikon Dec 2012 #104
You produce testosterone AND estrogen MattBaggins Dec 2012 #28
In fact, an estrogen causes the sexual dimorphism of the brain... DreamGypsy Dec 2012 #42
I just think it's cool we get to stand up to pee Major Nikon Dec 2012 #98
Urinating while standing is not limited to human males... DreamGypsy Dec 2012 #100
Competitive cyclists quite commonly pee while riding Major Nikon Dec 2012 #101
True Major Nikon Dec 2012 #97
I know many, many empathetic men. redqueen Dec 2012 #14
+1 unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #16
We may have behavioral tendencies, based on our genetic predispositions... redqueen Dec 2012 #20
Thank you for saying this red Major Nikon Dec 2012 #77
Sexism Major Nikon Dec 2012 #75
Thank you Odin2005. MadrasT Dec 2012 #9
Wow. unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #11
Yes, that is exactly what Odin said obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #18
Excuse me for feeling -personally- insulted by his generalizations unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #21
You just proved his point again obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #22
Am I supposed to just bend over and accept this unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #24
Look, I'm a guy, and I think you're overreacting to the point of looking ridiculous. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #27
Annnnd there's the hat trick! (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #31
Point proven -- again! obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #84
It's interesting you use a rape metaphor here gollygee Dec 2012 #88
Thanks for proving my point. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #32
+1 Squinch Dec 2012 #51
I'm going to try this again, JoeyT Dec 2012 #52
very well explained, and nicely too! renate Dec 2012 #59
+ infinity! This needs to be an OP. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #69
Wow! Wonderful explanation. thucythucy Dec 2012 #78
Seriously, you are awesome. redqueen Dec 2012 #79
That's it exactly -- this would make a good OP obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #86
wow. That was excellent. wow. and wow. Whisp Dec 2012 #89
This is a perfect example FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #90
Beautifully said. Thank you. yardwork Dec 2012 #94
Great post! nt raccoon Dec 2012 #99
BINGO! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #106
I understand in the strangest way. Explanation>> BlueJazz Dec 2012 #23
Growing up as a gay person you can also get similar treatment from these jerks, even from cops RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29
Oh..Yes...I was going to post pretty much the same thing but figured I'd stick to the.. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #34
Yeah, it can be pretty scary, especially if you don't look just like those jerks! They RKP5637 Dec 2012 #38
I haven't read through all of these related threads... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #66
I tangled with somebody who *truly couldn't seem to understand* that his long-winded, self-centered nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #30
And many on this board thank you so much Tsiyu Dec 2012 #40
Thank you Odin for your thoughtful post. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bonobo Dec 2012 #37
I appreciate the sentiment, Odin2005 salin Dec 2012 #39
I'll repost a comment I made late last night on another thread. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #41
Thanks for your input! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #44
I've noticed that young and good-looking women are much more approachable FarCenter Dec 2012 #45
I'm not a rapist ... GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #48
Eloquently stated, in so few words! nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #57
Assuming That Someone is Gulity of a Vice On the Road Dec 2012 #50
I agree. JoeyT Dec 2012 #54
Ah, another poster who missed to whole point of the OP. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #56
A vice? yardwork Dec 2012 #62
You're right of course, pecwae Dec 2012 #71
A vice is gambling too much, not rape obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #87
It may help to realize... luv_mykatz Dec 2012 #61
You're welcome! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #72
Thank you. Beacool Dec 2012 #63
Thanks, Odin, men simply have no clue Warpy Dec 2012 #67
I challenge you to open your mind a bit FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #91
They still don't get the fear. How could they? Warpy Dec 2012 #103
So sadly true Tumbulu Dec 2012 #107
Sexism Major Nikon Dec 2012 #105
Thank you Odin. Great OP. thucythucy Dec 2012 #85
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