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BarbD

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56. We should not let the fear of Trump guide our decision.

Reply to Deek1935 (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2024, 05:27 PM

Jul 17

We need to have courage. Work together and lead the faint of heart. Biden/Harris was the winning ticket in 2020 and will be again in 2024.

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Here is why a poll saying many Dems want Biden to drop out is to be COMPLETELY IGNORED. [View all] Deek1935 Jul 17 OP

Good Post ProfessorGAC Jul 17 #1

It is true. The average voter doesn't understand how this works, many politicians don't either. Walleye Jul 17 #2

Agree On All Counts, Sir The Magistrate Jul 17 #3

Nothing up my sleeve! PRESTO! Oopsie Daisy Jul 17 #14

some people still trying to sow doubt. I smell Russians DoBW Jul 17 #40

Yes. Among others. There are many who hate and resent Biden * Oopsie Daisy Jul 17 #58

Fan mail from some flounders? GiqueCee Jul 17 #15

I miss Bullwinkle. n/t SpankMe Jul 17 #33

Well put fargone Jul 17 #4

I agree with you. However, the alternate candidate would have to be Harris ProfessorPlum Jul 17 #5

Kamala Harris SomedayKindaLove Jul 17 #45

I'm talking about the 2024 primaries ProfessorPlum Jul 17 #61

Gotcha, thanks, my bad SomedayKindaLove Jul 17 #62

A complete solution like Michelle Obama / Harris might work. BrightKnight Jul 18 #72

I have to disagree with #3 democrattotheend Jul 17 #6

Biden has been an excellent President, probably the best in my over 50 years of voting Taraman Jul 17 #17

Exactly! Many people vote emotionally. oldsoftie Jul 17 #57

People take their everyday frustrations out on the incumbent's Deminpenn Jul 17 #24

" In head to head matchups in the polls (for those who love polls), it is a tie race. " LudwigPastorius Jul 17 #7

Ah, yes. A return to the "red wave 2022" composite poll RCP. lees1975 Jul 17 #13

Sorry, I forgot that we only like the polls that show us as being ahead. LudwigPastorius Jul 17 #16

Yes, and RCP has never done that. Even when we won. lees1975 Jul 17 #22

Pay your money, take your choice. 538 says exactly the opposite. lees1975 Jul 17 #23

RCP uses the simple average of different polls, not some "predictive" algorithm like 538. LudwigPastorius Jul 17 #26

Which explains their errors since 2016, in light of 538's relative success. lees1975 Jul 17 #37

When you use a poll aggregator, you have to Deminpenn Jul 17 #27

Yes, RCP doesn't include the polls that are privately commissioned by the parties themselves. LudwigPastorius Jul 17 #30

Schumer and Jefries' motives ae no more Deminpenn Jul 17 #35

"with nary a mention of Biden or Harris" A Physicist Jul 18 #69

K & R lees1975 Jul 17 #8

I'm just so angry about this Bettie Jul 17 #9

I can't believe this is still a thing. MustLoveBeagles Jul 17 #11

Right? Bettie Jul 17 #19

Anyone who dared come out to primary Joe would have been pilloried MichMan Jul 17 #51

They could have made their case. Bettie Jul 17 #59

That's the bottom line. It's not Trump's existential threat, it's "show me the money." lees1975 Jul 17 #25

Polls were wrong in 2018, 2020, 2022. AGAIN. NEVER TRUST CORPORATE MEDIA POLLS. ancianita Jul 17 #10

K & R h2ebits Jul 17 #12

early on when i thought et tu Jul 17 #18

100% Truth relayerbob Jul 17 #20

What is wrong with the "name callers" who can't defend a point without trying to belittle fellow Democrats? farmboy Jul 17 #28

Because it's the truth. They need to stop this SHIT. It is pure conjecture going down a fucked up rabbit hole. Deek1935 Jul 17 #36

HEre is the defense of my point relayerbob Jul 17 #55

I think thats untrue quakerboy Jul 18 #68

Well your judgement is certainly wrong here. Hmmm No troll here. farmboy Jul 20 #76

Who bullied you? relayerbob Jul 20 #77

Keep saying it. Keep being wrong. farmboy Jul 20 #78

I just cancelled my monthly donation to Adam Schiff ... aggiesal Jul 17 #46

I was lectured by a bed-wetter BaronChocula Jul 17 #21

These polls ignore the fact that the GOP may be able to keep a Biden replacement off the ballot in key states LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #29

RSO rso Jul 17 #42

You are WRONG LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #47

RSO rso Jul 17 #43

I'd like to know, why Butterflylady Jul 18 #74

If anyone needs to be "kicked to the curb" it's oasis Jul 17 #31

I am Riding with Biden Joe_michigan Jul 17 #32

I just cannot understand that some of the people I trusted and supported want Joe Biden to step down. katmondoo Jul 17 #34

Polls are the false flags of this contest. There will be a large attendance at November's polls. jaxexpat Jul 17 #38

And Abstractartist Jul 17 #39

#4 couldn't be truer. Plus the fact that this is all a right wing bull shit topic. C Moon Jul 17 #41

All polls should be taken with a pillar of salt Rocknation Jul 17 #44

WE ALREADY VOTED FOR HIM!! barbtries Jul 17 #48

From what I can find... jmbar2 Jul 17 #49

Biden peachpit24 Jul 17 #50

Election-Polls-are-95-Confident, 60 Percent Accurate waterwatcher123 Jul 17 #52

re: " how presidential elections actually work. It is an up or down vote on the performance of the incumbent..." thesquanderer Jul 17 #53

cool story bro stonecutter357 Jul 17 #54

We should not let the fear of Trump guide our decision. BarbD Jul 17 #56

Thank you for this dai13sy Jul 17 #60

After reading that AP article, I'll add a point number five: SouthBayDem Jul 17 #63

When I saw one of the sources being the New York Post, my bullshit meter was off the charts!!! wolfie001 Jul 17 #64

The voters don't understand what their motivations to vote are supposed to be so ignore them TheKentuckian Jul 17 #65

Biden's approval rating is probably closer to the high 30's and as high as 40 standingtall Jul 17 #67

Any one who wants to draft Kamala Harris to run instead of Joe Mblaze Jul 17 #66

The main stream media is going to great pains to elect Trump. Emile Jul 18 #70

We seem to have collectively forgotten praxEs Jul 18 #71

The polls are broken Farmer-Rick Jul 18 #73

Yes, agreed LymphocyteLover Jul 18 #75