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edhopper

(34,420 posts) Wed Jul 17, 2024, 03:44 PM Jul 17

I support Biden and want him as our candidate. But.. [View all]

and this is just as an observer of what is happening internally in our Party.
I think there is an even chance Biden will be replaced as the candidate.
IF that happens, we MUST move forward and work our asses off to beat TSF.
Many of us will be angry, many of us will be frustrated. But ALL of us must come together and elect whoever is our candidate.
I saw a deep division in people who supported Hillary or Sanders hurt us in 2016.
I think the stakes are too high to let our animosity prevent us from winning.
These are very troubling times, and I a hoping we can stay together and win.

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I support Biden and want him as our candidate. But.. [View all] edhopper Jul 17 OP

We have to face reality, something is going on. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #1

Oh, good grief wryter2000 Jul 17 #8

Unless they start telling us what is going on, this convention will make 1968 look Irish_Dem Jul 17 #17

What is going on is simple krawhitham Jul 17 #24

What is their motive? Irish_Dem Jul 17 #27

To get rid of Joe, but they are too stupid to see that leads to a crushing lose krawhitham Jul 17 #45

Yes but why do they want to get rid of Joe? Irish_Dem Jul 17 #46

You say "They never liked Joe".. whathehell Jul 17 #56

What did you hear on MSNBC that surprised you? Amaryllis Jul 17 #91

Someone said that certain people in the Obama whathehell Jul 17 #96

Wouldn't it be a lot easier in that case to just let him lose? Blaukraut Jul 17 #70

There will be no '28 if we lose this. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 17 #81

They don't want this plan for some reason. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #85

Ever meet a billionaire or multi-millionaire? FHRRK Jul 17 #57

They say it over, and people can choose to believe them or not. Celerity Jul 17 #73

And their words are based on what? GiqueCee Jul 17 #93

I was speaking about elected Congressional Dems, but I wager the same could be said for the big money Democratic Celerity Jul 17 #95

Oh, I KNOW those words aren't yours! GiqueCee Jul 17 #97

Exactly who is "they"? nancy1942 Jul 17 #83

Exactly. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #88

Oh, c'mon... GiqueCee Jul 17 #99

I think it's probably some big money donors Diraven Jul 17 #87

I guess it's one of those self-fulfilling prophecies Walleye Jul 17 #52

There is too much at stake right now. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #60

I've never seen anything like it Walleye Jul 17 #63

I agree. It is astounding. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #69

Yes, but in 1968 18-year-olds didn't have the vote and there really was a reason for the demonstrations. Bloody war. Walleye Jul 17 #80

Yes but we at war now too. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #82

we must all work together musicblind Jul 17 #100

Piss poor Rebl2 Jul 17 #78

100% certain the timing is deliberate. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #89

Oh, it's going to be fun, isn't it? shrike3 Jul 17 #74

Yes could be a blood bath. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #75

Yep. But we're only the base, right? shrike3 Jul 17 #76

Yes. We do not appear to be part of the current algorithm. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #77

Switching candidates at all would be the biggest political mistake in history. krawhitham Jul 17 #21

Hear hear. 58Sunliner Jul 17 #51

Why does all this remind of 2016? Think. Again. Jul 17 #2

Because it has Putin and Netanyahu's fingerprints all over it. BComplex Jul 17 #29

Netanyahu's? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 17 #101

It would be political SUICIDE. We lose the INCUMBENCY and PARTY UNITY keys. We LOSE. It's SUICIDE! Deek1935 Jul 17 #3

Exactly wryter2000 Jul 17 #5

I'm not saying this is the correct answer, Yorkie Mom Jul 17 #10

Does she get the hundred million or more the campaign has raised? wryter2000 Jul 17 #16

Where there's a will there's a way. Pisces Jul 17 #32

Utter nonsense wryter2000 Jul 17 #39

RSO rso Jul 17 #47

Not now wryter2000 Jul 17 #71

Every other democratic country on Earth? meadowlander Jul 17 #53

100% krawhitham Jul 17 #28

Wonderful way to reward a president who got so much done. shrike3 Jul 17 #4

If they go through with this, and should we ever have another election as a result of a trump win, BComplex Jul 17 #36

If Trump wins, they will be out of power forever. shrike3 Jul 17 #40

That's what I know. BComplex Jul 17 #67

It's not fair, I agree democrattotheend Jul 17 #66

They don't know what he's done. shrike3 Jul 17 #68

I would hope so FL_Jerry Jul 17 #6

I wish we could openly discuss this here Yorkie Mom Jul 17 #7

How can we discuss why top ranking Democratic officials want Joe to step down gab13by13 Jul 17 #11

They haven't told us yet, but I don't assume that they won't. Yorkie Mom Jul 17 #25

I don't think they have made it against the rules to discuss it here democrattotheend Jul 17 #12

If juries are randomly chosen, the majority think it's betrayal. Frasier Balzov Jul 17 #44

Juries aren't randomly chosen. After a certain number of pulled posts, you can't participate on juries anymore. meadowlander Jul 17 #50

They have. EarlG posted a week or two back and juries have been pulling any post that advocates for it. meadowlander Jul 17 #48

I agree Yorkie Mom. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #20

I'd love to be able to have that discussion and pick your brain about what you think Yorkie Mom Jul 17 #31

I agree 100%. It's crazy we can't discuss this when something is definitely going on. Pisces Jul 17 #34

Same here, would love to hear your ideas. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #42

"Top Dems" Are For Biden". So there's That. And "Pres Biden is NOT Dropping OUT". Cha Jul 17 #37

I love Biden, I think he's the best choice, but I want our best person Quixote1818 Jul 17 #103

My only thought gab13by13 Jul 17 #9

This is hideous. Schiff is close to Pelosi flamingdem Jul 17 #13

I trust Pelosi. Yorkie Mom Jul 17 #35

I know .. flamingdem Jul 17 #41

Yes gab those are on the list of possible explanations. Irish_Dem Jul 17 #23

Candidatetobenamedlater/Harris doesn't look good on a sign lame54 Jul 17 #14

Boy does that ever piss me off! Kamala Harris would be able to kick anyone's hiney! BComplex Jul 17 #62

He will not be replaced. And if he was, we would lose. Demsrule86 Jul 17 #15

I wish they would realize that wryter2000 Jul 17 #18

I don't know.... I would bet they know Trump has no chance of winning which is why they are taking these risks... Chakaconcarne Jul 17 #64

If we switch we get CRUSHED in a landslide krawhitham Jul 17 #19

Na. If they force Biden out, the party is telling me my vote doesn't matter. Self Esteem Jul 17 #22

Exactly SomedayKindaLove Jul 17 #90

President Biden Is Our Canidate and Many of Us Are Moving FORWARD NOW. Cha Jul 17 #26

This would be far worse than after 2016. yorkster Jul 17 #30

Why are you saying that? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 17 #33

My issue is why wasn't this addressed last fall? Buckeyeblue Jul 17 #38

Sometimes things change on the ground very quickly. And Deterioration happens faster than people realize Pisces Jul 17 #43

Last fall everyone was told get behind Biden no matter what so we don't weaken him against Trump. meadowlander Jul 17 #61

That leads me to believe even more that this is a big donor-driven pressure campaign. W_HAMILTON Jul 17 #79

I'll vote for a cheeseburger over Trump or any other Republican. Elessar Zappa Jul 17 #49

I think the majority of Americans feel the same way.... Chakaconcarne Jul 17 #65

Whatever happens, happens. But we *MUST* stop Trump and Project 2025 *AT ALL COSTS*. Initech Jul 17 #54

Right there with you . . . . . BUT . . . . Stinky The Clown Jul 17 #55

"Party unity but only if my guy tops the ticket" isn't party unity. meadowlander Jul 17 #58

Wiseowljedi wiseowljedi Jul 17 #59

We are showing the world Sunsky Jul 17 #72

if what happens? bigtree Jul 17 #84

Post removed Post removed Jul 17 #86

I am terrified another 1968 convention is going to happen if he steps down LostOne4Ever Jul 17 #92

Good luck with that idea - waterwatcher123 Jul 17 #94

We need independents and green voters to win this and we won't get that if Biden is replaced. lees1975 Jul 17 #98

I'm all in on the democratic ticket come november. Full stop. fishwax Jul 17 #102