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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
74. so you're saying the school board decided to shut down arts programs in the public schools?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

and (someone) ran a levy to fund a sports facility, and the people voted 'yes'?

was any similar levy run to fund the arts?

and who voted to set up the charter school with a full arts program while taking arts away from public schools? did the people vote on that?

i presume this charter school is selective enrollment, am i correct in that assumption?

They get public money, they don't have to account for it. madfloridian Dec 2012 #1
Here's more of the beauty... TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #2
It gets worse BlueStreak Dec 2012 #37
Virtual Schools - That's the biggest windfall. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #3
The only people held accountable are the public school teachers. madfloridian Dec 2012 #5
Absofuckiknglutely. No dollar left behind. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #106
I cannot condemn charter schools. RebelOne Dec 2012 #4
don't you wonder how it is that charter schools are allowed to get rid of such students while HiPointDem Dec 2012 #6
So true. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #12
Nationwide, in all the studies, charter schools average lower than public schools. Squinch Dec 2012 #67
The percentage of failing charter schools is surprising. Coyotl Dec 2012 #89
Charter schools don't have to keep misbehaving students. madfloridian Dec 2012 #7
"a ghetto atmosphere"??? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #11
I picked up on that, too. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #41
Those were my words and not my daughter's. RebelOne Dec 2012 #50
I work in schools like that. You know who goes to those schools? Kids. Just like your kids. Squinch Dec 2012 #64
Amen to that. madfloridian Dec 2012 #109
Charter schools should all be shut down. blackspade Dec 2012 #8
No, they can go on without public funding. Coyotl Dec 2012 #90
Like I said, they should be shut down. blackspade Dec 2012 #95
Private schools are just fine, profit is just fine Coyotl Dec 2012 #96
Private schools are not the same as for profit. blackspade Dec 2012 #97
Would you abolish all of them or just stop children from attending them? At what level? Coyotl Dec 2012 #98
What is your deal? blackspade Dec 2012 #101
I'm pro-public education Coyotl Dec 2012 #103
Then I have no Idea what you were arguing with me about. blackspade Dec 2012 #105
You are welcome Coyotl Dec 2012 #108
I thought that was the whole point Turbineguy Dec 2012 #9
Charters also don't have to pay their teachers according to pay scale. craigmatic Dec 2012 #10
The charter that tried to open by me was planning to offer poverty line wages. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #15
Well, my daughter in South Florida is earning s very good salary in a charter school. n/t RebelOne Dec 2012 #53
Is it as much as she'd be making in public school? craigmatic Dec 2012 #57
We have an excellent performing arts charter school antigop Dec 2012 #13
The per student money left the public school and went to the performing arts charter. madfloridian Dec 2012 #14
Many of the public programs get cut... TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #17
Football rules here. Always has. Very few parents are advocates for the arts. antigop Dec 2012 #44
no, the money left the public school long before the charter. antigop Dec 2012 #18
um, no it didn't, as the poster is talking about the per-pupil funding. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #21
the money for the public school arts programs was cut long before the charter school went in. antigop Dec 2012 #22
Read up on the subject... I bet you've never talked to a School Board or State DoE person. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #25
I don't need to "read up on the subject" as I know what happened. And was involved. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #26
the money the poster is talking about is the per-pupil funding, which is the money that HiPointDem Dec 2012 #27
and the per-pupil dollars were NOT going into the arts programs in the public schools. antigop Dec 2012 #29
The per-pupil dollars were going to the public schools. They no longer are. If the state HiPointDem Dec 2012 #33
The VOTERS DON'T WANT THE ARTS PROGRAMS. They don't care. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #51
so you keep saying. but you won't talk about the specifics, like how it came about that HiPointDem Dec 2012 #66
My child doesn't go to the charter school. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #75
then i guess it has no students at all, since "VOTERS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ARTS", only you. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #84
But they are paying for one anyway quaker bill Dec 2012 #91
and obtained per-pupil dollars for art programs quaker bill Dec 2012 #92
That is public money going to private companies to run unregulated schools. madfloridian Dec 2012 #43
and in this case it's the only option for students who want to pursue arts programs. antigop Dec 2012 #45
And if a student wants to take theater, dance, music classes, this is their only option. nt antigop Dec 2012 #62
yes, so you keep saying. but you won't address how that situation arose. and you seem HiPointDem Dec 2012 #69
How many times do I have to tell you--the parents with kids in the public schools don't care about antigop Dec 2012 #76
What are you talking about? blackspade Dec 2012 #102
States provide School Construction money for capital improvements. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #23
money is going into the sports programs (esp. football), not the arts. That's why the arts school antigop Dec 2012 #24
Then speak up at your next School Board meeting - rally the troops. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #28
um, what makes you think I didn't speak to the school board about cutting arts programs? antigop Dec 2012 #30
You didn't hear me... Discuss Regionalization. n/r TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #31
and you didn't hear me. The charter school is already there. nt antigop Dec 2012 #32
And it's getting per-pupil funding which takes funding from the public schools, as the poster said HiPointDem Dec 2012 #34
and the charter school is already built-- it's not going anywhere. Performing arts requires special antigop Dec 2012 #47
So an art program at a charter and one in the publics are two different things. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #35
nope, you don't know the situation or the politics. Besides, I'm moving out of the district. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #46
The arts programs require special facilities that the voters in the public schools will not support. antigop Dec 2012 #48
The letter that primed the School Board for my presentation. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #39
FYI - They suspended talks about eliminating every program I defended. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #40
How many times do I have to tell you -- the charter school is built. It's not going anywhere. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #52
Thanks for taking the fight to them. madfloridian Dec 2012 #42
Who are the "They"? I've mentioned this numerous times but I'm not getting through.. The charter antigop Dec 2012 #55
The voters cut the arts program in their public schools but funded an art program in a charter HiPointDem Dec 2012 #71
"Loose its individuality"? I hope you didn't send that. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #60
I know, I wrote that freehand. I caught the mistake after hitting send. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #88
as mentioned below, the public schools don't have any problem building new football stadiums. antigop Dec 2012 #19
The per-pupil funding does not go to football stadiums. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #36
People in the school district vote for those stadiums and indoor training facilities. antigop Dec 2012 #49
Did the population vote to cut arts programs? I've never seen such a vote. I assume that HiPointDem Dec 2012 #54
The voters in the PUBLIC SCHOOLS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ARTS. How many times do I have to tell you antigop Dec 2012 #56
yes, you're the only one. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #59
YOu seem to have a hard time grasping that the PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ARTS. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #58
The school district cut theater, dance, and music classes. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #61
Did the people vote on the cuts? You imply that they did. And did they then vote to fund HiPointDem Dec 2012 #63
The people elect the school board. The people vote for funding sports facilities. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #68
so you're saying the school board decided to shut down arts programs in the public schools? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #74
How many times do I have to tell you-- the PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ARTS! n/t antigop Dec 2012 #70
AND HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO ASK, DID THEY VOTE TO SHUT DOWN THE PUBLIC HiPointDem Dec 2012 #72
Why are you so averse to understanding? Look, I don't have any more time for this. I'm DONE. n/t antigop Dec 2012 #77
averse to understanding *what*? all you've done is repeat "the voters don't care" over & over. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #81
There are also excellent public schools. The existence of excellent charter schools is irrelevant HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16
Accurate post. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #20
As I have stated numerous times...the only way students can get music, dance, and theater classes is antigop Dec 2012 #65
and as i have asked many times, how is it that there's money enough to fund these things HiPointDem Dec 2012 #73
What part of -- THE CHARTER SCHOOL EXISTS AND IT ISN'T GOING AWAY -- don't you antigop Dec 2012 #78
lol. you don't want to answer the questions. 'the charter school exists' -- yes, plopped HiPointDem Dec 2012 #83
I'm not sure what the disconnect is here, but let me see if I can explain this question. patrice Dec 2012 #104
since you obviously don't understand -- I'M DONE with this... I have no time to try to make you antigop Dec 2012 #79
no, you have no DESIRE to answer the questions, as they'd spoil your narrative about HiPointDem Dec 2012 #80
One more post...I answered upthread. GO READ IT! n/t antigop Dec 2012 #85
WHERE? Link the post at least. I've answered every post you've addressed to me to my knowledge. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #86
Which is completely irrelevant. The fact that there might (in your opinion) be a good Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #93
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #38
It's all about destroying the teachers union, that is their goal. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #82
And stealing taxpayer money. Don't forget that part. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #94
Union busting profiteers do more than harm children by diverting money to pockets Coyotl Dec 2012 #87
"How charter schools harm public education" is the real issue. Coyotl Dec 2012 #99
Yes, exactly. Our nation is using fed money to defund public education. madfloridian Dec 2012 #100
for people who are convinced the public schools are failing, the fact that charter schools HiPointDem Dec 2012 #107
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