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In reply to the discussion: That feminist poster and mixed messages [View all]Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)21. Men need to be taught that no means no and drunkeness is not consent.
Of course, many men already know this but there are obviously some who do not (Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Julian Assange spring to mind here).
And women need to be taught not to unnecessarily place themselves in risky situations. For example, all women should be well aware that date-rape drugs exist and can be easily dropped into unattended drinks.
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most of all, don't try to discuss any of this with some men, because their egos are MORE IMPORTANT
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#1
I've learned on DU that *some* men need to give their blessing to what and how us women discuss
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#4
well, i am hearing from some women that if we talk about it out loud, we are being delicate flowers.
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#7
yes yes yes. lol, then go to a siminar how to prevent rape and ignore it all to not hurt mens feeler
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#6
Teaching kids about what constitutes voluntary sex is a fairly simple thing to do
TeamsterDem
Dec 2012
#5
anyone who gets angry when some are trying to spread important information is suspect, IMHO
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#13
Well, there's a large difference between telling people how to act in accordance with law
TeamsterDem
Dec 2012
#16
you're okay with leaving out education for men, solely because some feel they've already heard it.
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#18
U followed me. And repeatedly engaged in direct personal insults, which are a TOS violation.
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#42
I remember one man here very angry that woman might ever be afraid of men. So angry that I thought
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#14
Unfortunately sexism and gender issues often force some to pick a side without respect to facts
TeamsterDem
Dec 2012
#17
He's calling me out, because he misread an OP- believed it to be a slur calling all men rapists...
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#23
oh betty, i have read enough of the posters posts in the last day to KNOW the bullshit and
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#27
No, I only dismiss YOU out of hand because you repeatedly lie about what I said
TeamsterDem
Dec 2012
#30
As in the last thread, it wasn't about YOU. We never discussed women fearing men, you're imagining
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#38
That would be a feat, of course I never claimed that which you're now putting in my mouth
TeamsterDem
Dec 2012
#32
after being in the marines and a fraternity no less, LOL. Can you BELIEVE that shite?
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#33
Similarly to the way racism and racial prejudice forces one to take a side?
etherealtruth
Dec 2012
#41
a good lesson for both young men and women: If you fail to respect what women say.....
bettyellen
Dec 2012
#43
From what I gather on all this is that I should suffer from male gender guilt
Earth_First
Dec 2012
#45