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In reply to the discussion: Meet the Predators (men need to learn how to recognize and fight rape culture) [View all]mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)I guess you missed the thread where the OP stated it was the NORM and EXPECTED of him among his peers to "fuck" women (when I say women I am not referring to all women, some women) who were passed out at parties. THAT is a culture.
How about what happened to me? That guys friends LAUGHED, which only served the purpose of encouraging his actions. THAT is the culture.
Tosh made a comment during an act that rape jokes could be funny, when a woman spoke up and told him rape jokes were never funny he responded with this: 'Wouldn't it be funny if that girl got raped by like, five guys right now?
'Like right now? What if a bunch of guys just raped her...'
Instead of apologizing he basically said the woman lied. That is the culture.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172277/Daniel-Tosh-tells-female-heckler-funny-bunch-guys-just-raped-her.html
How about this story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48872000/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/sex-assault-girl-divides-texas-town/
An 11 year old girl was repeatedly raped by at least 8 men. Some people in the town blamed the victim, you know because she wore makeup, she was unsupervised, she dressed in tight clothing. This case divided the small town between those who thought the victim was at fault and others who said rape is rape. BTW the rapists videotaped the attacks. THAT is a culture.
You yourself said you saw it in movies (yet somehow you refuse to accept that it happens) THAT is the culture
Why would 51 60% of college men report they would rape a woman if they were certain that they could get away with it.
One in twelve college-age men admit having fulfilled the prevailing definition of rape or attempted rape, yet virtually none of these men identify themselves as rapists
43% of college men admit using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a womans protest; using physical aggression; and forcing intercourse; 15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraint to force a woman to have sex.
http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/college_campuses_and_rape.htm
Those men do not live in a vacuum, where none of their friends suspect what is happening. This behavior, as what the Op in another thread stated is known and condoned. It is encouraged and laughed about. Boys will be boys. Quite frankly your deliberate obtuse understanding of facts is very telling. Why won't you trust a woman when she says there is a culture that allows for rape, just because you have never seen it? Ahh but you have, as you admitted in movies.
So I ask; why is it wrong for women to say that not only have courses informing women on how to protect themselves, to also tell men (ALL MEN) whether they would engage in the culture or not, how not to rape, to identify behavior among their peers that is detriment to a woman's safety? What is wrong with admitting that indeed there is a culture that reinforces and supports rapists.
Look at that those stats above doesn't the 43% tell you something. 43% of men in college will admit to rape, as long as you don't call it rape.