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We must be reminded RobertEarl Nov 2012 #1
"the default rape creatures that they are" flvegan Nov 2012 #2
Ummm, you snatched that quote out of context, 5gan... Bonobo Nov 2012 #9
Ummm, no I didn't. flvegan Nov 2012 #22
Sorry, I have no idea what you are saying. Bonobo Nov 2012 #23
there are many cultural examples of men being taught the opposite values G_j Nov 2012 #3
Why is it then that despite watching countless violent television shows, playing Arkana Nov 2012 #69
lucky you G_j Nov 2012 #73
I don't dispute that they may have an effect on young minds. Arkana Nov 2012 #74
agreed, the buck stops at the parents G_j Nov 2012 #77
I think the culture introduces the idea later in adolescence Prism Nov 2012 #4
Interesting... Bonobo Nov 2012 #7
I think you've touched upon it. Prism Nov 2012 #16
That is an interesting observation LittleBlue Nov 2012 #66
you really think about the beginning of time, they had the brain power and the knowledge to know seabeyond Nov 2012 #70
Just an excuse. Just like so many rationalizations so many of us use to excuse ourselves Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #40
I think that's part of it. The rationalization Prism Nov 2012 #51
drunk sex hfojvt Nov 2012 #46
Men can't get pregnant Prism Nov 2012 #52
but logically there is a consideration hfojvt Nov 2012 #53
A girl did that to me once. And I statuatorially raped her. ieoeja Nov 2012 #78
+1. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #5
it doesn't matter how many threads people make liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #6
Men's biggest fear is that women will laugh at them. Women's biggest fear is that men will kill them Sadiedog Nov 2012 #8
Wow. That is haunting. liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #10
Me too - and I'm a man. dchill Nov 2012 #28
Apparently Margaret Atwood relayed that quote. Bonobo Nov 2012 #11
Thank you, I am glad to know who said it originally. Sadiedog Nov 2012 #12
Just so you know, men also fear being killed by other men. Bonobo Nov 2012 #13
Sad! Sadiedog Nov 2012 #18
As a man Berserker Nov 2012 #24
We're not all giant vikings... nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #26
"they go through their life in fear of us" hfojvt Nov 2012 #42
It's a generalization, i.e. overly broad by its nature. I don't necessarily agree *or* disagree. nomorenomore08 Nov 2012 #43
there is the generalization hfojvt Nov 2012 #45
Wrong. Completely, utterly wrong. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #50
in what way? hfojvt Nov 2012 #57
It isn't big things, like whether or not to get married gollygee Nov 2012 #75
Which is why I am asked consistently by my LanternWaste Nov 2012 #54
they are .... hawt, for you, dontcha know. it means they want sex? nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #55
Darn tootin'! LanternWaste Nov 2012 #58
really. seabeyond Nov 2012 #60
because they are living their life in fear of you? hfojvt Nov 2012 #59
No... it doesn't. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #64
theya re at work. it is dark outside. they do not want to go outside by themselves. seabeyond Nov 2012 #65
That may be how you feel TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #67
Gavin de Becker, The Gift Of Fear LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #29
Yes! That is the book that I had heard the fear quote in! Thanks! NT Sadiedog Nov 2012 #79
THE GIFT OF FEAR by Gavin de Becker. nt raccoon Nov 2012 #47
Lorena Bobbit's husband would beg to differ (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #48
Some people do have to be taught not to abuse their kids leftstreet Nov 2012 #14
Because they were not raised right. Bonobo Nov 2012 #15
Agreed leftstreet Nov 2012 #17
Bonobo? really? NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #19
I agree. Orangutans rape, bonobos don't. nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #27
Unbelievable that I have to post this link over and over again. We are so clueless about our culture Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #20
people don't want to believe humans can think this way liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #21
I am skeptical. Surveys are notorious for their ability to be manipulated. Bonobo Nov 2012 #25
I have been manipulated and coerced into having sex liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #30
That is never a nice thing. Bonobo Nov 2012 #31
what is physically coercive sex? Do you mean physically forcible sex? liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #32
I meant physically forcing, which is, of course rape itself. Bonobo Nov 2012 #33
I can't say whether I sustained the same level of trauma as someone who was forcibly raped liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #35
I am sorry for you hurt. Bonobo Nov 2012 #37
thank you liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #38
Physical coercion can result in sex? Silly me, I thought that was rape! bettyellen Nov 2012 #34
Nope, not blurry in the least. See post #33. nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #36
I wonder if that is a common experience hfojvt Nov 2012 #44
for you... redqueen Nov 2012 #61
The tone nvme Nov 2012 #39
"If it involves traumatic(physical) or manipulative, coercive, or substance induced. redqueen Nov 2012 #63
For me this speaks to an even more fundamental question, of whether people are "naturally" more nomorenomore08 Nov 2012 #41
Some women and men do have to be taught not to abuse their children gollygee Nov 2012 #49
Makes sense, but then there are a few who apparently just don't know treestar Nov 2012 #56
or put an aspirin between your knees. come on. guys have known sayings about this shit. no means seabeyond Nov 2012 #62
You're Correct. It is NOT a Default Position ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #68
I wasn't going to reply to this, but people seem to be taking it seriously... redqueen Nov 2012 #71
Yeah, I didn't know how to answer this because I couldn't think of how gollygee Nov 2012 #76
Predators always know marions ghost Nov 2012 #72
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