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Junkdrawer

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121. Tell China that the US government doesn't honor its debt....

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:57 PM

Nov 2012

That should go over big.

For 29 years, the extra FICA taxes went INTO the General Fund. Now it has to come OUT of the General fund. That means we should VASTLY increase taxes on those that benefited most from those earlier 29 years: the recipients of the Reagan tax cuts.

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Bernie Sanders BLOWS THE LID OFF The ‘Bipartisan’ Plan To CUT TAXES for Corporations and the Wealthy [View all] Segami Nov 2012 OP

I didn't realize their recommendations were that bad democrattotheend Nov 2012 #1

I know, it sounds even worse today. fasttense Nov 2012 #86

Bernie Sanders is absolutely right. surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #2

He is not only right donnasgirl Nov 2012 #16

I don't believe it does cut taxes on the wealthy BainsBane Nov 2012 #38

You're more well-informed than Sen. Sanders??? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #70

See post 40 on the Tax Policy Center summary BainsBane Nov 2012 #105

See these links BainsBane Nov 2012 #111

You're correct. There isn't enough info for anyone who is savannah43 Nov 2012 #88

Read the tax policy Center report BainsBane Nov 2012 #103

Distributional effects of Simpson Bowles BainsBane Nov 2012 #110

'slashes entitlements' ...... are these your words?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #3

'Slashes entitlements' is as written in the article. Segami Nov 2012 #4

I was not sure, that is why I asked Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #5

They have managed to condition us to use such terms in our everyday discussions. Segami Nov 2012 #6

Being entitled to something is NOT a bad thing...we have to stop allowing the Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #11

Yes, I agree with you regarding the terms 'entitled or entitlements', but Segami Nov 2012 #17

Because we let them... We should scream Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #22

I AGREE 100%!!! I am a firm believer of ' pushing back ' against ANY and ALL Segami Nov 2012 #26

Why stop with Mitch McConnell's mother. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #29

I didn't stop at Mitch McConnell's mother. Segami Nov 2012 #32

Exactly...and not just Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #33

Glad to oblige... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #30

+1,000 to what you said. Their money is no better than ours that we paid in. freshwest Nov 2012 #48

Paul Ryan's suggestion for a system he said helped his family is to gut it with a voucher system.. midnight Nov 2012 #100

It's heartening to read this discussion here Plucketeer Nov 2012 #104

We should let our congress critters Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #108

Yeah! That's a GREAT angle Plucketeer Dec 2012 #124

By George! I think he's got it. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #125

Especially something that we paid for. SS is a self-supporting fund. savannah43 Nov 2012 #90

The embezzling began under St Ronnie.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #95

Yes, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #97

I know of no list Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #14

Did you know the word entitled is in the 1935 SS law 9 times? FogerRox Nov 2012 #51

I believe it. The GOP hate FDR so much they wanted to take him off the dime. freshwest Nov 2012 #118

I guess, but it has a specific meaning union_maid Nov 2012 #41

How about "earned benefits"? I heard someone say that once. n/t cui bono Nov 2012 #58

"earned benefits" is exactly right, because that is what it is! meti57b Nov 2012 #66

We are... 99Forever Nov 2012 #68

Entitlement is NOT a bad word...stop allowing the GOp to brand you and your language. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #9

I prefer Social Safety Net Programs. n/t humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #37

To which you are ENTITLED... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #43

To which I invested my own capital.... humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #109

No, you "invested" nothing. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #112

Did you know the word entitled is in the 1935 SS law 9 times? FogerRox Nov 2012 #52

Crazy how deep it goes, isn't it? The complete free hand to set conditions TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #47

Exactly. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #74

I'm with you on this. AnnaLee Nov 2012 #57

When you work for an employer, your are "entitled" to your paycheck! Stonepounder Nov 2012 #83

The list is endless and we MUST take back the word Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #85

Pre-Paid Benefits....50 yrs. of FICA Taxes...29 yrs. of FICA + Savings.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #114

You don't have any "pre-paid" benefits.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #117

"Every dime of your FICA taxes are spent to pay for the benefits of those already retired." WRONG Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #119

The trust fund is the largest owner of US debt.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #120

Tell China that the US government doesn't honor its debt.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #121

The US will honor its debt, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #122

I disagree. "Entitlement" has become a dirty word but the way I look at it, Medicare premiums LoisB Nov 2012 #10

Absolutely agree.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #45

the word entitled is in the 1935 SS law 9 times - dont run away from it FogerRox Nov 2012 #55

Entitlements is the right and proper word, quit submitting to spin. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #18

The republicans have corrupted the word Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #27

Whatever. Just one of the many reason they continue to exist. Play on. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #28

This comment needs to be read far and wide. FogerRox Nov 2012 #56

Better yet is... rudycantfail Nov 2012 #116

You are entirely correct FogerRox Nov 2012 #53

The word entitled is in the Original 1935 law 9 times FogerRox Nov 2012 #50

Is it being passed? I mean, has Obama offered that? nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #7

No, and the source article link here, says he did not: freshwest Nov 2012 #24

Thanks freshwest! Segami Nov 2012 #36

You're welcome, it's all coming together for good. That thread also has Bernie and Begich's freshwest Nov 2012 #49

K&R, and countdown to Bernie getting labeled as a "purity troll". bullwinkle428 Nov 2012 #8

lol- Yeah he DOES want a damn pony!!!! upi402 Nov 2012 #15

Go Bernie. One of the very, very few politicians I trust for the truth. n/t NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #12

I'm with Bernie Sanders upi402 Nov 2012 #13

+1. Overseas Nov 2012 #23

One of the few sane voices in DC Curmudgeoness Nov 2012 #19

This is what Bernie boldly wrote LEADING off his letter. Segami Nov 2012 #20

Simpson-Bowles finding ways to protect the rich, at the expense of everyone else.... midnight Nov 2012 #21

Simpson Bowles is a Republican type plan. Something they would like. Overseas Nov 2012 #25

Something truly democratic reteachinwi Nov 2012 #59

That's what I want. Wall Street got bailed out to such a great extent. It is their turn to Overseas Nov 2012 #77

It eliminates lower taxes on capital gains BainsBane Nov 2012 #107

Thanks Segami Protalker Nov 2012 #31

Your welcome. I agree and favor Single Payer. Segami Nov 2012 #39

I am writing my Senator now humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #34

I'm not sure that's accurate BainsBane Nov 2012 #35

Simpson Bowles taxes capital gains as ordinary revenue BainsBane Nov 2012 #40

K&R Hubert Flottz Nov 2012 #42

Out of 100 senators we only have one truly decent one who seem to care about us Pakid Nov 2012 #44

And he isnt a Democrat. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #54

Yeah, he's an avowed democratic socialist on top of that. nt Selatius Nov 2012 #64

But why, why, why zentrum Nov 2012 #46

I'll tell John2 Nov 2012 #61

good question. better one..why put together this commission SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #67

Obama didn't have enough facts and bought the "Fiscal Cliff" crap. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #71

I'll add that the drumbeat to eliminate the cap on Social Security altogether has the same motive. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #60

Plenty of Middle-Class people (like moi) have modest investments & don't want CG rates raised. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #78

actually not. 95% of such investments are held by the top 20%, 40% by the top 1%. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #98

i blame obama for simpson-bowles tomp Nov 2012 #62

The cat food commission did a completely incompetent job. tclambert Nov 2012 #63

Only for real people. They did a wonderful job for the 1%. savannah43 Nov 2012 #91

They did exactly what they were hired to do. Jakes Progress Nov 2012 #102

Bernie! AzDar Nov 2012 #65

This revelation is literally sickening, as my stomach is now upset. I can hardly believe the S.S. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #79

Gotta love Bernie Sanders! PotatoChip Nov 2012 #73

K&R for Bernie!! SHRED Nov 2012 #75

Absolutely NOTHING "balanced" about Simpson or Bowles SHRED Nov 2012 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #80

Obama. I understand that he had to make concessions during his first term. savannah43 Nov 2012 #93

This part is incorrect Doctor_J Nov 2012 #81

A Hand for Sanders joy2u2 Nov 2012 #82

thanks for screwing the well being of billions of people blue-dog sociopaths fascisthunter Nov 2012 #84

I wish he was my senator. blackspade Nov 2012 #87

I STAND with Bernie. bvar22 Nov 2012 #89

Goldman Sachs' Lloyd Blankfein on Cutting SS: sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #96

I'm with Bernie - enough of this shit benefitting the rich!!!! Initech Nov 2012 #94

I like Obama and all redqueen Nov 2012 #99

I really hope Bernie is careful and doesn't ride in small planes n/t melody Nov 2012 #101

the rich 1% want poor 99% to bail them out lovuian Nov 2012 #106

So What Can We Do? I Mean Really? Obama Get Cracking! ... YOHABLO Nov 2012 #113

K and R for Bernie.... Stuart G Nov 2012 #115

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #123

Please remember: Senator Sanders also opposes any Chained CPI for Social Security. patrice Dec 2012 #126