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liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. you can call it whatever you want
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:43 PM
Nov 2012

That is my opinion. You say that driving drunk should remain illegal. Well, you lower the age limit you increase automobile deaths. You also increase the number of young people's lives who are ruined because they kill someone because they didn't comprehend the consequences of getting into a car drunk.

Highly doubtful. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #1
Aren't they supposed to lose only 10% of their highway funds? Daniel537 Nov 2012 #2
You're right RomneyLies Nov 2012 #4
True enough. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #9
There is some good data to support keeping the age at 21. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #12
Yeah, but i'm just not comfortable giving away some freedoms for some alleged security. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #16
I think there are several stages to evolve from childhood into adulthood RomneyLies Nov 2012 #19
The majority of countries in the world have a lower drinking age than we do Daniel537 Nov 2012 #21
A young person's brain hasn't fully developed by the time they are 18 liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #22
And yet their brain is fully developed to voluntarily join the military at 18 and risk death? Daniel537 Nov 2012 #26
you can call it whatever you want liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #30
So why not ban alcohol altogether if autmobile deaths is your main concern? Daniel537 Nov 2012 #34
I have a right to my opinion liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #36
Lol, some people just can't handle facts. n/t Daniel537 Nov 2012 #38
Then they shouldn't be able to decide laundry_queen Nov 2012 #27
+1 Daniel537 Nov 2012 #28
Some states have increased restrictions on driving for 16 and 17 yr olds liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #35
Indeed, i will call you all those things. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #37
I remember when they tried it in 70's, couldn't hold it julian09 Nov 2012 #63
We should lower the drinking age and raise the age at which you can join the military RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #74
That could be changed too, but that's a fight at the Federal level... JHB Nov 2012 #25
Stay thirsty, my friend jberryhill Nov 2012 #3
Change on this issue is always...3 years away. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #5
If anything it would be lowered to 19 (which is still highly doubtful) WI_DEM Nov 2012 #6
Exactly loyalsister Nov 2012 #50
Ha! liberal N proud Nov 2012 #7
Hope not. n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #8
Why not? n/t Daniel537 Nov 2012 #10
I know this is TOTALLY hypocritical but I got my first car at 16 and by 18 I was no stranger to cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #75
+1 nt darkangel218 Nov 2012 #76
Back about 1996 there was this club coldbeer Nov 2012 #11
The legal age for marijuana is 21. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #13
Fake IDs already exist. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #14
Yes, fake IDs have existed since the first ID ever required.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #56
Go to a state where it is legal for 18 year olds to drink. LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #15
But they already use other mind-altering drugs right now, like marijuana, in High Schools Daniel537 Nov 2012 #18
Most states allow underage drinking Mariana Nov 2012 #66
I'm 23 and I think the drinking age is bad policy. white_wolf Nov 2012 #17
+1 Daniel537 Nov 2012 #20
18-19 in Canada but unlikely to occur here. n/t godai Nov 2012 #23
Used to be 18 in Ontario, but later raised to 19 Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #24
Learn something everyday...I thought it allowed any underage person to drink with parental consent HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #46
25 states allow underage drinking for religious purposes subterranean Nov 2012 #57
I wrote that is what I had thought...as it says in the table you link to HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #59
IF Berserker Nov 2012 #29
And what exactly is that good reason? Daniel537 Nov 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #47
Almost certainly not. MineralMan Nov 2012 #33
True, and that's unfortunate. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #39
More than half the states did that during the Vietnam War pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #40
They should raise it to 25 Politicalboi Nov 2012 #41
Why should anyone be able to legislate somebody elses life? Daniel537 Nov 2012 #43
I have an 18 year old. I'm fine with the drinking age at 21. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #42
Good for you. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #44
I know 18 year olds. Two of my son's former classmates have already TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #45
I'm not proposing lowering it to 17, so that kid would have died anyway. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #48
Nobody's lives will improve. Society won't improve. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #49
Its about individual choice, not society's choice. n/t Daniel537 Nov 2012 #65
Daniel, once you're older and have seen the tragedy teenage drinking causes.... groundloop Nov 2012 #54
I'm sorry, but once again either you are an adult or you aren't. white_wolf Nov 2012 #58
Emotions, that's all these arguments are rooted in. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #64
There are really so many other things to worry about. ToxMarz Nov 2012 #51
I vaguely remember back in the 60's newfie11 Nov 2012 #52
Your memory does not fail you (at least this time). subterranean Nov 2012 #60
Ah thank you nt newfie11 Nov 2012 #67
Would be very surprised union_maid Nov 2012 #53
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #61
no Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #62
isn't any age proffered going to be just as arbitrary? LanternWaste Nov 2012 #68
I wouldn't expect it any time soon. Mariana Nov 2012 #69
I hope not Jersey Devil Nov 2012 #70
Doubt it. A more useful effort would be to get legislation passed that allows parents to bluestate10 Nov 2012 #71
Not a chance jmowreader Nov 2012 #72
No, and I think that's wrong. kiva Nov 2012 #73
nope nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #77
In high school our age was 19. I used to go across the state line to a mom and pop store where brewens Nov 2012 #78
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