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democrattotheend

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58. Very good point

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:21 AM

Nov 2012

I think the president might be trying to appear more open to entitlement reform than he really is so that he can blame the Republicans if they fail to make a deal by the end of the year. If he comes out now and says "no entitlement reform" he looks unreasonable. Like you said, if he actually looked like he was about to cave I think labor (and the AARP) would be out sounding the alarm.

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Grand Barg- ah fuckit: Obama says he'll do what it takes to avoid cliff (Seattle Times) [View all] Poll_Blind Nov 2012 OP

As a metaphor, having lived in mountainous country with lots of cliffs, one Cleita Nov 2012 #1

It's like he's daring them to up the ante so he can give up even MORE. What. The. Fuck. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #3

Ok if this is true................... jeggus Nov 2012 #2

These rich politicians are gonna throw us all over the cliff n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #4

I know this'll come off as ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #5

Oh yeah, saying he'll wash John Boehner’s Car stealthily puts him in the cat-bird seat, doesn't it? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #7

Yep, I expect POTUS to be crawling on the South Lawn with Bo next week CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #25

Are you kidding me? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #50

Thank you. Yes. I agree. Why are people here always so anxious to believe the worst? pnwmom Nov 2012 #60

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #67

LOL. I know I'd never try that with my SO. But maybe some people here would? pnwmom Nov 2012 #88

It just amazes me ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #89

The President clarifies his position. kentuck Nov 2012 #6

If you haven't heard exactly that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #68

People like you make governing suck. You and the Grover Norquists of the world seem hellbent Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #8

Where is the humor?? kentuck Nov 2012 #9

... woo me with science Nov 2012 #10

I wish I could rec your post. young but wise Nov 2012 #11

Oh yeah, tell the seniors they're being little Grover Norquists because they don't... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #12

"Tell it to the AARP. " ProSense Nov 2012 #14

Yeah, like you really give a shit. Just another club to pound over the president's head. Stop..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #16

Those lobbying groups all lobbied FOR President Obama. Look how you TRASH them and us so quickly. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #19

If you have to dig up an old video to make your point, then you're a dishonest person. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #55

What the everfucking fuck? You're AGAINST liberal special interests? Union Scribe Nov 2012 #62

I never had any such dilemma with regard to "respect" for you. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #64

Thank God. Union Scribe Nov 2012 #65

Maybe you could name a couple of Extremes from the Left the people rejected so soundly.... Bandit Nov 2012 #73

Ever hear of Jill Stein, or as I like to refer to her, Ms. 0.03%? That's her impact on the 2012... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #74

So it is your insinuation that being Green is an extreme position Bandit Nov 2012 #76

Oh, I don't know, why don't we take a poll? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #82

> RomneyLies Nov 2012 #17

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #22

giving up a strong hand for a weak hand is considered stupid by many people nt msongs Nov 2012 #39

Ooh, hyperpartisanship. "It's so bad I had to make up a new word to even begin to describe it" Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #54

Principled people? Yeah, they're such sticklers! Union Scribe Nov 2012 #59

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #69

If those who govern don't like it, they can quit. I'd rather it sucks to govern than eat cat food. JVS Nov 2012 #71

Sanders Applauds White House for Taking Social Security Off the Table in Deficit Talks ProSense Nov 2012 #13

You're posting shit from yesterday, this article is less than two hours old, from TODAY. nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #15

You're posting MSM shit ProSense Nov 2012 #18

And the embedded video that you find so 'servile' is far older. CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #27

What a silly angle to work. The President making promises to wash cars... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #29

Anyone who took that joke as a sincere rollover is naive, IMO. CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #45

The bigotry of low expectations ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #70

So? Obama SHOULD be publicly taking a position that HE is doing everything possible pnwmom Nov 2012 #61

Speculative outrage is the best outrage...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #20

The politically naive should simply ignore the sausage making if they cannot stomach it. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #21

It's my ass in the fucking sausage grinder Fumesucker Nov 2012 #32

+1 deutsey Nov 2012 #77

Confident Obama sees path to fiscal cliff win DFab420 Nov 2012 #23

Just another excuse by some on DU to trash the President. Trashing. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #24

How about:: GOP divide over Obama tax plan goes public DFab420 Nov 2012 #26

Theres nothing wrong with what he said, it doesn't sound weak. You are being PETTY. phleshdef Nov 2012 #28

As if Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid are petty things? You're tipping your hand! nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #30

Don't put fucking words in my post that I didn't say. phleshdef Nov 2012 #31

Don't Feed the Trolls. DFab420 Nov 2012 #33

Excellent advice. I'm out. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #66

You'd think some people on this board would trust Obama just a wee bit more by now BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #34

Why? His games have increased the number of hostages each round and he has been the principle mover TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #56

If Obama looks like he is going to give, organized labor will cue us in on it bluestateguy Nov 2012 #35

That's incorrect: AFSCME, SEIU & NEA (at least) are all lobbying hard (including running ads) in... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #37

You missed my point bluestateguy Nov 2012 #38

Nah, just re-read your post, which is pretty clear. You ducking out just cause you got caught? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #41

I mean, unless THREE unions fighitng against Social Security/Medicare/aid cuts isn't enough? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #47

Very good point democrattotheend Nov 2012 #58

I think you are overreacting. DCBob Nov 2012 #36

Specifics? Here ya go, hot off the press from the Wall Street Journal: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #40

I think I trust our President on what is the "better negotiating position". DCBob Nov 2012 #42

Shit dude, didn't you read the article? Tim Geithner is the lead negotiator, and he's a FUCKWIT. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #43

I think he gets his orders from the President.. DCBob Nov 2012 #44

Of course- and in doing so, you just validated my OP! Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #46

you sure have an odd way of twisting someones words.. DCBob Nov 2012 #48

I wouldn't. Chan790 Nov 2012 #49

That's it! I've Had it! I won't vote for Obama for re-election a third time! Xipe Totec Nov 2012 #51

Romney is going to win! RegieRocker Nov 2012 #52

october? that`s a thousand years ago... madrchsod Nov 2012 #53

Why go repeatedly out of your way rudycantfail Nov 2012 #57

Bingo! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #72

Most people here seem to have forgotten pnwmom Nov 2012 #63

Your outrage is duly noted. Are you going to do this for the next four years? Avalux Nov 2012 #75

Not as tiring whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #78

Of course because there is no price to pay for constantly being wrong with biased predictions. great white snark Nov 2012 #79

Look, fuck a 10-20 year deal with lame-duck Tea Partiers. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #80

But how do you know they're hell bent on doing that? Avalux Nov 2012 #85

Because they've said so: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #86

Yes they will treestar Nov 2012 #84

Bitterness is your stock and trade. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #81

Why worry about the wording of every sentence? treestar Nov 2012 #83

A guy's gotta have something to write in GD, doncha know. MineralMan Nov 2012 #87

Ain't it the truth? treestar Nov 2012 #90