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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:15 AM

33. I am not on the side of Eric Cantor and John Boehner. NO health care is NOT on the table.

 

as Bing Crosby said so truthfully "Everybody has an angle".

and in the end, Elizabeth Warren is the same as the other Democrats in the Senate, or she is not on the same team.
She is not holier than they are.

To me, the issue itself matters not at all.The greater common good of going forward 10% with NO retreat is.

But like in abortion issue, the starting to say, well, ok, get rid of this that already was long ago argued, re argued and reargued again (and it was a bill that Dennis Kucinich himself fabulously backed in agreement to get 20 minutes of national airtime which he did), and if not mistaken Bernie Sanders backed it, as did all the Dems.
Nowadays a woman can't have her right to privacy in so many states, and once the door opened to a small cutback, it never stopped.

I don't know what is hard to understand that to keep winning, Democrats need unity.

And trying to tear down President Obama's signature legislation, historic legislation, one not seen since the legendary great LBJ was in office, is not unity.

NO CHANGES to the bill.

remember- IT IS NOT ON THE TABLE

in spite of what Eric Cantor and John Boehner said.

Which is what this change would do-give Cantor and Boehner what THEY and the tea party want.

I am NOT on that side. Are you on their side? Or President Obama?

There is a line in the sand.
I know which side of the line I am on.

NO TO ANY CHANGE ON THE SINGLE GREATEST FORWARD MOVEMENT ON HEALTHCARE IN 50 YEARS.

Change anything else in the deficit talks, it won't bother me, but do NOT change this great health care bill, unless there is a France like health care system put in place
(with NO doctor or hospital bills, when one is sick, they get treated and well, and they pay into the system prior and after. Same with doctors, same with all the great people of France.)

And let's stop idolizing the holier than though who as found here, are just another politician, and we need to remember that it took much compromise for FDR and for Lincoln and for LBJ to ram through the policies needed. None got 100% without giving something up.
Giving a little to get 10% is sure worth more than getting nothing while reaching for 100%.

(meaning boffo to Lincoln for the 13th, Boffo to LBJ for the civil rights/voting rights, Boffo to Obama for the healthcare bill.)

AND NO TO ANY CHANGE WHATSOEVER to appease Boehner or Cantor.

and yes to Susan Rice as SOS and now I am not so sure I would back Ms. Warren for that committe her fans want her on quite yet.
remember, she is out of 100, in senority, just about 94 or 98 out of 100. It will take years to move up the ranks, and I do hope she serves in the senate long enough to become one of the top 10. (which is why I hope against hope Sen.Kerry don't leave. We need both of them in the senate leading the way.
But Ms. Warren should look to Ted Kennedy and his signature issue, which thank God and Ted Kennedy, got passed after 50 years of nothing before Teddy died.

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