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TomCADem

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5. Here is a sampling...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012
First, there are several Biblical quotes that directly endorse collective ownership, which are often ignored by the evangelical Christians:

And all that believed were together, and had all things in common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.


Acts 2: 44, 45

And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.


Acts 4:32-37

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.
For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.
Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Romans 13:1-7

Second, in direct contradiction to those who preach the prosperity gospel, i.e., that being rich reflects the Lord's favor and being poor reflects God's disfavor, the Bible contains numerous provisions expressing hostility to the rich:

"Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves."

- Matthew 21:12

"On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,"

- Mark 11:15

"In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.

So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

- John 2:14-16

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

- Mark 10:25

Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

- Luke 18:25

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24

Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

- Luke 18:25

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

- Matthew 19:24


“For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows”

- I Timothy 6:10
Please cite statements attributed to Jesus regarding socialism vs. capitalism. nt jody Nov 2012 #1
Which ones do you want cited? regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #2
Just one will be sufficient. nt jody Nov 2012 #3
Here is a sampling... TomCADem Nov 2012 #5
The quotes from Acts were not from Jesus. The others were not comments pitting socialism vs jody Nov 2012 #6
Every time he said to sell all one had, give to the poor, and follow Him. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #7
Right deutsey Nov 2012 #8
OK but Jesus also taught invest money for a profit and that's capitalism. jody Nov 2012 #9
You do realize he wasn't talking about money there, right? knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #14
Apparently you don't know that the talent used in Jesus' time amounted to about 130 pounds of either jody Nov 2012 #16
Yes, I did. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #18
Interesting. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #20
IMHO, it takes a special kind of obliviousness... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #43
Strictly speaking . . . markpkessinger Nov 2012 #19
Oh, don't burst his bubble. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #21
You do know that Jesus pre-deceased both Adam Smith, Robert Owen and Karl Marx... TomCADem Nov 2012 #22
With all due respect, you're just playing games... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #42
The words "socialism" and "capitalism" didn't exist yet. pnwmom Nov 2012 #44
Here are a few ... libdem4life Nov 2012 #4
Argument isn't valid regjoe Nov 2012 #10
You didn't read the article, did you? Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #11
Perhaps regjoe read and studied the bible instead. nt jody Nov 2012 #12
Why yes, I did read the article regjoe Nov 2012 #13
So individually we're supposed to follow Jesus' teaching... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #23
Don't we as Democrats promote religion on an individual level? regjoe Nov 2012 #30
Nice Tangent... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #32
Jesus told people to do these things BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #24
Work of God in this world? regjoe Nov 2012 #27
How is capitalism not subjegation of one man to another? KatyMan Nov 2012 #29
What do those things have to do with the teachings of Jesus? regjoe Nov 2012 #31
You brought it up: KatyMan Nov 2012 #34
Actually, subjugating yourself for another man is a HUGE part of the Gospel BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #36
I agree regjoe Nov 2012 #38
Okay, easy peasy: BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #39
Interesting regjoe Nov 2012 #40
Yes, He did preach on an individual level. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #15
I'm not questioning taxes regjoe Nov 2012 #28
We live in a democracy, so the distinction doesn't apply. pnwmom Nov 2012 #45
Great article, thank you for posting it! nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #25
Maybe someone above mentioned it,,, Oldfolkie Nov 2012 #26
Religion has always been used by the PTB to justify their rule. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #33
As a progressive Christian who is currently attending an liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #35
@liberalhistorian very well said +1! BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #37
+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #41
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