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Trekologer

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15. No offense but if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:19 PM
Mar 2024

Last edited Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Shorting the stock means selling shares at today’s price that you borrow with the promise to buy the same number of shares in the future at whatever price it is. If the stock goes down, you make the difference in profit. If it goes up, you owe that difference and potentially that loss is unlimited.

Edit: Here's why the loss is unlimited.

DWAC closed at $36.94 today. Let's say that on Monday, you shorted 100 shares of the stock. You borrow 100 shares and sell them on the open market for $3,694. If the share price goes down to, say $30, you cash in your position which means you buy 100 shares at $30 each to replace the borrowed ones, netting you $694 (minus whatever fees your broker charged you). But let's say the share price goes up to $40 (and in after hours trading so far today, it actually has gone up). You now owe your broker $306 to close out your position.

You could hold onto your contract and hope that the share price goes back down but your broker will charge you fees and interest. There's a saying that the stock market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid. What happens if the stock continues to go up? There are likely plenty of potential bag-holders who think they're going to get rich off of poopy suit's deal that could keep buying shares to prop the price up. Let's say they're able to pump the share price up to $50. That's now a $1,306 loss for your 100 share short contract.

Stay away. It's like arguing with a troll. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2024 #1
that stock is gonna get way overvalued for a real short period of time prodigitalson Mar 2024 #2
I'd go through a stock broker MLAA Mar 2024 #4
I've got a schwab account I can place the trade myself. I just don't know the basics of a short sale prodigitalson Mar 2024 #8
No offense but if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't Trekologer Mar 2024 #15
This FHRRK Mar 2024 #21
Biggest takeaway Mountainguy Mar 2024 #35
You first need to gave a margin account to short a stock calguy Mar 2024 #28
Stock Brokers are sales people who earn commission kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2024 #26
doubtful... I think it'll be worthless AFTER the election. WarGamer Mar 2024 #6
I think that's right but it'll eventually crash to almost nothing prodigitalson Mar 2024 #9
If Trump loses... it won't be worth the old gum on the floor of the restroom at a Grateful Dead concert. WarGamer Mar 2024 #10
There's residuals in that gum. Not so much in the stock. Lochloosa Mar 2024 #33
There's a rule about shorting. Turbineguy Mar 2024 #3
And the stock market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent Trekologer Mar 2024 #17
This - you can lose an unlimited amount of money if the stock goes up quickly getagrip_already Mar 2024 #20
You got that right. Turbineguy Mar 2024 #38
I'm a daily stock/options trader... WarGamer Mar 2024 #5
Thanks for the insight! MLAA Mar 2024 #12
I'm talking about 200-250 bucks in my Schwab account I play with prodigitalson Mar 2024 #13
then if you nail it, just right you might make $20 WarGamer Mar 2024 #16
ok... that answers my question prodigitalson Mar 2024 #18
Did some work for Wade Cook back in the day. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2024 #14
Shorting a stock is hard if you haven't done it before. jmbar2 Mar 2024 #7
so I can't just say short a couple of hundred bucks worth of it when it is like 50 bucks a share prodigitalson Mar 2024 #11
if you short 4 shares at 50... and it dips to 3...you can make $188 WarGamer Mar 2024 #19
not a bad return. what would the interest be in a year do you reckon? prodigitalson Mar 2024 #22
The interest rate is a point or two over the Fed Funds rate... maybe 6-7%? WarGamer Mar 2024 #23
so less than 20 bucks? prodigitalson Mar 2024 #24
yeah. WarGamer Mar 2024 #25
OK, that'll be fun. At 50 bucks a share I could short four shres wiith 300 bucks to cover a margin call prodigitalson Mar 2024 #27
You would still owe the difference I believe MichMan Mar 2024 #29
then they close the account or take money from your other holdings WarGamer Mar 2024 #30
yikes prodigitalson Mar 2024 #32
You could always buy Puts. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2024 #34
This is sort of how it's done: no_hypocrisy Mar 2024 #31
Puts/Calls Zo Zig Mar 2024 #36
Get in line. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #37
So did you short the stock today? former9thward Mar 2024 #39
He's on the phone with his broker... something about a margin call WarGamer Mar 2024 #40
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