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In reply to the discussion: Federal Judge Announces Wageless Job Opening, Calls Working for Free a 'Moral Commitment' [View all]Sanity Claws
(21,840 posts)35. They're graduating with over $100K in debt
In other years, when student loans were not such a burden, that kind of position may have been considered something to jump at. However, I really don't see how students overburdened by debt would be able to take such an internship. It is something that only a recent graduate who can live off mommy and daddy another year could do.
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HiPointDem
Nov 2012
OP
Are you comparing Ivy League law school grads with Walmart workers? Oh, please---
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#8
Did you feel coerced? Or did you think you benefited from the choices you made?
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#17
We are required to do two for my grad program. I'm glad to get the experience and we get hired.
Michigan Alum
Nov 2012
#25
I did two internships, too. I was lucky to have a supportive spouse. Had I not, I would
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#44
Not all of them, and the loans are held in abeyance. You have to fill out the paperwork, but
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#40
Excuse me???? That is some racist, horrible shit right there!!!! You are speaking to a
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#55
Speaking as someone who is planning on starting law school in about two years...
white_wolf
Nov 2012
#67
Working for free makes it difficult for cash strapped students to get these lucrative positions
liberal N proud
Nov 2012
#76
No, he's not. The GOP doesn't want more federal clerkships. They want a slowed judiciary,
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#9
As an attorney, I don't have a problem with this, and neither will the majority of my profession.
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#3
Every federal judge needs a third or fourth law clerk. But why is he wrong to offer an unpaid
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#5
Only trust funders can do it. why stop with free work; maybe 'apprentices' should
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#11
Since you find trust-funders objectionable, then why not have them work for free?
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#15
Especially the lowly Walmart workers who shouldn't even be lumped together with these people... nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Nov 2012
#22
Walmart "associates" and baby lawyers shouldn't be lumped together because the former have much less
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#48
That's simply not true. Your hiring isn't dependent on your finances, but on your
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#23
I don't disagree that they should be paid, but if Congress isn't going to up the number of clerks
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#41
Your student loans go into abeyance if you are on an internship..all you have to do is file the
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#13
I think you misunderstand me. There are people who can't afford to take the 45k clerkship--
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#31
Technical question from an interested layperson: what work do clerks do
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#92
But--they aren't 'new lawyers.' Most of them are law students, graduated, who have not yet taken
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#16
The article clearly states it is a one-year internship. The clerkships are still paid, and they do
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#29
No government internships??? Do you know how many people that would affect in the PHS and NIH
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#43
Clearly this is an idea that can help cut the cost of government and hence taxes
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#32
You do realize that I believe that this "judge" is deficient in his study of the law.
BlueMTexpat
Nov 2012
#72
msanthrope seems to be of the opinion that there are many unpaid official federal positions
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#75
So you have to come from a family that has enough money to support you in order
valerief
Nov 2012
#19
Are all governmental internships to be done away with, or do you only wish to protect
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#27
I think many of us are unaware that there are a lot of unpaid government workers
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#33
You do realize I was mostly being sardonic in the post to which you replied?
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#95
Lemme explain---I am one of those horrible Democrats who spent Election Day working as an attorney
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#52
I think this is outrageous and that NOBODY would be defending it if he was a BUSH appointee.
forestpath
Nov 2012
#46
Employees deserve to be paid fairly for their work. And an intern is an EMPLOYEE...
forestpath
Nov 2012
#65
Yep--and you will have hundreds of applicants for each internship, because that moves you
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#56
Why are you posting a misogynist law prof who likes to complain about the % of women
msanthrope
Nov 2012
#61
Wow you did a great job explaining wages/experience benefits 1/2 dozen times...
kooljerk666
Nov 2012
#71
Martinez didn't invent internships, but he's introducing the idea to the public sector...
Ken Burch
Nov 2012
#106